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Old January 10th 08, 01:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing,microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
Wyman[_2_]
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Posts: 9
Default Why can't Vista see other computers

I may have hijacked another post with my problem and I do apologize so I'll start a new topic.

I'm having trouble getting my Vista Ultimate desktop to see the XP machines
and vice versa. The XPs see each other fine. I'll copy and paste all the info I'm sure you'll need below
but let me say right now that the browstat wouldn't run on the Vista PC.
When I opened to text file it was empty. Also, you'll notice in the
ipconfig that it says NetBios over TCPIP is disable but it's not. I have no
idea why it says disabled (see pic)
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1..._IPsetting.jpg. This
is gonna be lengthy so please forgive me. No firewalls are installed and the one in Windows has been disabled.

#1 - XP Home (Wireless laptop)
IPCONFIG INFO:
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : HPPavilion
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.
Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection :
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
Network Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-02-46-7E-F0
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.16
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.87.72.130
68.87.77.130
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, January 09, 2008
8:56:05 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, January 10, 2008
8:56:05 PM

NET CONFIG INFO:
Server Name \\HPPAVILION
Server Comment My Laptop

Software version Windows 2002
Server is active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{C78B04BA-2931-4523-9388-45894790CA01} (001302467ef0)

Server hidden No
Maximum Logged On Users 5
Maximum open files per session 16384

Idle session time (min) 15
The command completed successfully.

Computer name \\HPPAVILION
Full Computer name HPPavilion
User name Wyman

Workstation active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{C78B04BA-2931-4523-9388-45894790CA01} (001302467EF0)

Software version Windows 2002

Workstation domain WGHOME
Workstation Domain DNS Name (null)
Logon domain HPPAVILION

COM Open Timeout (sec) 0
COM Send Count (byte) 16
COM Send Timeout (msec) 250
The command completed successfully

BROWSTAT:
Status for domain WGHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{C78B04BA-2931-4523-9388-45894790CA01}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: HPPAVILION
Master browser is running build 2600
1 backup servers retrieved from master HPPAVILION
\\HPPAVILION
There are 2 servers in domain WGHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{C78B04BA-2931-4523-9388-45894790CA01}
There are 1 domains in domain WGHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{C78B04BA-2931-4523-9388-45894790CA01}

#2 - XP MCE (Ethernet desktop)
IPCONFIG info:
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : officepc
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection :
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Marvell Yukon 88E8001/8003/8010
PCI Gigabit Ethernet Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0F-EA-69-FE-43
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.18
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.87.72.130
68.87.77.130
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, January 09, 2008
8:56:40 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, January 10, 2008
8:56:40 PM

NET CONFIG INFO:
Server Name \\OFFICEPC
Server Comment Office PC
Software version Windows 2002
Server is active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{B3554BB2-272F-43DB-8344-EF58BD5B7540} (000fea69fe43)

Server hidden No
Maximum Logged On Users 10
Maximum open files per session 16384

Idle session time (min) 15
The command completed successfully.

Computer name \\OFFICEPC
Full Computer name officepc
User name Wyman

Workstation active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{B3554BB2-272F-43DB-8344-EF58BD5B7540} (000FEA69FE43)

Software version Windows 2002

Workstation domain WGHOME
Workstation Domain DNS Name (null)
Logon domain OFFICEPC

COM Open Timeout (sec) 0
COM Send Count (byte) 16
COM Send Timeout (msec) 250
The command completed successfully.

BROWSTAT:
Status for domain WGHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{B3554BB2-272F-43DB-8344-EF58BD5B7540}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: HPPAVILION
Could not connect to registry, error = 53 Unable to determine build
of browser master: 53
\\\\HPPAVILION . Version:05.01 Flags: 51203 NT POTENTIAL MASTER
1 backup servers retrieved from master HPPAVILION
\\HPPAVILION
There are 2 servers in domain WGHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{B3554BB2-272F-43DB-8344-EF58BD5B7540}
There are 1 domains in domain WGHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{B3554BB2-272F-43DB-8344-EF58BD5B7540}

#3 - VISTA ULTIMATE (Wireless desktop)
IPCONFIG INFO:
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Vista
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection :

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Linksys Wireless-G PCI Adapter #2
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-18-F8-AE-B9-3C
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.20(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, January 09, 2008 8:56:09
PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:56:09 PM
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.87.72.130
68.87.77.130
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

NET CONFIG INFO:
Server Name \\VISTA
Server Comment
Software version Windows Vista (TM) Ultimate
Server is active on
NetbiosSmb (VISTA)
Server hidden No
Maximum Logged On Users 10
Maximum open files per session 16384

Idle session time (min) 15
The command completed successfully.

Computer name \\VISTA
Full Computer name Vista
User name Wyman

Workstation active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)

Software version Windows Vista (TM) Ultimate

Workstation domain WGHOME
Logon domain VISTA

COM Open Timeout (sec) 0
COM Send Count (byte) 16
COM Send Timeout (msec) 250
The command completed successfully.

BROWSTAT:
(file was blank) no info given

So hopefully this is all the info you need but if you need more just let me
know. I've also inserted links to some screen prints. Please note I've
since changed the name of the workgroup to WGHOME. Also, if you are
interested in connecting to my machine via LogMeIn, I'm open to that. I'm
on CST.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...tworkmap-1.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...eychgo/NSC.jpg

Thanks for your help.

Wy

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Old January 10th 08, 03:04 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing,microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
Chuck [MVP]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 512
Default Why can't Vista see other computers

On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 08:37:37 -0600, "Wyman" wrote:

I may have hijacked another post with my problem and I do apologize so I'll start a new topic.

I'm having trouble getting my Vista Ultimate desktop to see the XP machines
and vice versa. The XPs see each other fine. I'll copy and paste all the info I'm sure you'll need below
but let me say right now that the browstat wouldn't run on the Vista PC.
When I opened to text file it was empty. Also, you'll notice in the
ipconfig that it says NetBios over TCPIP is disable but it's not. I have no
idea why it says disabled (see pic)
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1..._IPsetting.jpg. This
is gonna be lengthy so please forgive me. No firewalls are installed and the one in Windows has been disabled.

#1 - XP Home (Wireless laptop)
IPCONFIG INFO:
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : HPPavilion
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.
Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection :
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
Network Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-02-46-7E-F0
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.16
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.87.72.130
68.87.77.130
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, January 09, 2008
8:56:05 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, January 10, 2008
8:56:05 PM

NET CONFIG INFO:
Server Name \\HPPAVILION
Server Comment My Laptop

Software version Windows 2002
Server is active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{C78B04BA-2931-4523-9388-45894790CA01} (001302467ef0)

Server hidden No
Maximum Logged On Users 5
Maximum open files per session 16384

Idle session time (min) 15
The command completed successfully.

Computer name \\HPPAVILION
Full Computer name HPPavilion
User name Wyman

Workstation active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{C78B04BA-2931-4523-9388-45894790CA01} (001302467EF0)

Software version Windows 2002

Workstation domain WGHOME
Workstation Domain DNS Name (null)
Logon domain HPPAVILION

COM Open Timeout (sec) 0
COM Send Count (byte) 16
COM Send Timeout (msec) 250
The command completed successfully

BROWSTAT:
Status for domain WGHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{C78B04BA-2931-4523-9388-45894790CA01}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: HPPAVILION
Master browser is running build 2600
1 backup servers retrieved from master HPPAVILION
\\HPPAVILION
There are 2 servers in domain WGHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{C78B04BA-2931-4523-9388-45894790CA01}
There are 1 domains in domain WGHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{C78B04BA-2931-4523-9388-45894790CA01}

#2 - XP MCE (Ethernet desktop)
IPCONFIG info:
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : officepc
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection :
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Marvell Yukon 88E8001/8003/8010
PCI Gigabit Ethernet Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0F-EA-69-FE-43
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.18
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.87.72.130
68.87.77.130
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, January 09, 2008
8:56:40 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, January 10, 2008
8:56:40 PM

NET CONFIG INFO:
Server Name \\OFFICEPC
Server Comment Office PC
Software version Windows 2002
Server is active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{B3554BB2-272F-43DB-8344-EF58BD5B7540} (000fea69fe43)

Server hidden No
Maximum Logged On Users 10
Maximum open files per session 16384

Idle session time (min) 15
The command completed successfully.

Computer name \\OFFICEPC
Full Computer name officepc
User name Wyman

Workstation active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{B3554BB2-272F-43DB-8344-EF58BD5B7540} (000FEA69FE43)

Software version Windows 2002

Workstation domain WGHOME
Workstation Domain DNS Name (null)
Logon domain OFFICEPC

COM Open Timeout (sec) 0
COM Send Count (byte) 16
COM Send Timeout (msec) 250
The command completed successfully.

BROWSTAT:
Status for domain WGHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{B3554BB2-272F-43DB-8344-EF58BD5B7540}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: HPPAVILION
Could not connect to registry, error = 53 Unable to determine build
of browser master: 53
\\\\HPPAVILION . Version:05.01 Flags: 51203 NT POTENTIAL MASTER
1 backup servers retrieved from master HPPAVILION
\\HPPAVILION
There are 2 servers in domain WGHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{B3554BB2-272F-43DB-8344-EF58BD5B7540}
There are 1 domains in domain WGHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{B3554BB2-272F-43DB-8344-EF58BD5B7540}

#3 - VISTA ULTIMATE (Wireless desktop)
IPCONFIG INFO:
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Vista
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection :

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Linksys Wireless-G PCI Adapter #2
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-18-F8-AE-B9-3C
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.20(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, January 09, 2008 8:56:09
PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:56:09 PM
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.87.72.130
68.87.77.130
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

NET CONFIG INFO:
Server Name \\VISTA
Server Comment
Software version Windows Vista (TM) Ultimate
Server is active on
NetbiosSmb (VISTA)
Server hidden No
Maximum Logged On Users 10
Maximum open files per session 16384

Idle session time (min) 15
The command completed successfully.

Computer name \\VISTA
Full Computer name Vista
User name Wyman

Workstation active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)

Software version Windows Vista (TM) Ultimate

Workstation domain WGHOME
Logon domain VISTA

COM Open Timeout (sec) 0
COM Send Count (byte) 16
COM Send Timeout (msec) 250
The command completed successfully.

BROWSTAT:
(file was blank) no info given

So hopefully this is all the info you need but if you need more just let me
know. I've also inserted links to some screen prints. Please note I've
since changed the name of the workgroup to WGHOME. Also, if you are
interested in connecting to my machine via LogMeIn, I'm open to that. I'm
on CST.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...tworkmap-1.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...eychgo/NSC.jpg

Thanks for your help.

Wy


Wy,

OK, what you have to work on is the NetBT issue on Vista. IPConfig, and both
Net Config, logs show that NetBT is not active.

Try CDiag, run on all 3 computers.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-cdiag-without-assistance.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ssistance.html

And run "browstat status" on Vista, in a command window started AS ADMIN, and
see what error you get.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/06/command-window-in-windows-vista.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/0...ows-vista.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
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Old January 10th 08, 03:14 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing,microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
Wy
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 10
Default Why can't Vista see other computers

Hi Chuck,

I'll do that tonight when I get home. I tried running the browstat on Vista
as admin and still came out with a blank file. It was empty. It was easier
to place the file on the desktop and run it that way so that's the way I ran
in case you're interested.

Wy

"Chuck [MVP]" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 08:37:37 -0600, "Wyman" wrote:

I may have hijacked another post with my problem and I do apologize so
I'll start a new topic.

I'm having trouble getting my Vista Ultimate desktop to see the XP
machines
and vice versa. The XPs see each other fine. I'll copy and paste all the
info I'm sure you'll need below
but let me say right now that the browstat wouldn't run on the Vista PC.
When I opened to text file it was empty. Also, you'll notice in the
ipconfig that it says NetBios over TCPIP is disable but it's not. I have
no
idea why it says disabled (see pic)
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1..._IPsetting.jpg. This
is gonna be lengthy so please forgive me. No firewalls are installed and
the one in Windows has been disabled.

#1 - XP Home (Wireless laptop)
IPCONFIG INFO:
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : HPPavilion
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.
Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection :
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
Network Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-02-46-7E-F0
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.16
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.87.72.130
68.87.77.130
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, January 09, 2008
8:56:05 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, January 10, 2008
8:56:05 PM

NET CONFIG INFO:
Server Name \\HPPAVILION
Server Comment My Laptop

Software version Windows 2002
Server is active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{C78B04BA-2931-4523-9388-45894790CA01} (001302467ef0)

Server hidden No
Maximum Logged On Users 5
Maximum open files per session 16384

Idle session time (min) 15
The command completed successfully.

Computer name \\HPPAVILION
Full Computer name HPPavilion
User name Wyman

Workstation active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{C78B04BA-2931-4523-9388-45894790CA01} (001302467EF0)

Software version Windows 2002

Workstation domain WGHOME
Workstation Domain DNS Name (null)
Logon domain HPPAVILION

COM Open Timeout (sec) 0
COM Send Count (byte) 16
COM Send Timeout (msec) 250
The command completed successfully

BROWSTAT:
Status for domain WGHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{C78B04BA-2931-4523-9388-45894790CA01}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: HPPAVILION
Master browser is running build 2600
1 backup servers retrieved from master HPPAVILION
\\HPPAVILION
There are 2 servers in domain WGHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{C78B04BA-2931-4523-9388-45894790CA01}
There are 1 domains in domain WGHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{C78B04BA-2931-4523-9388-45894790CA01}

#2 - XP MCE (Ethernet desktop)
IPCONFIG info:
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : officepc
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection :
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Marvell Yukon
88E8001/8003/8010
PCI Gigabit Ethernet Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0F-EA-69-FE-43
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.18
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.87.72.130
68.87.77.130
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, January 09, 2008
8:56:40 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, January 10, 2008
8:56:40 PM

NET CONFIG INFO:
Server Name \\OFFICEPC
Server Comment Office PC
Software version Windows 2002
Server is active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{B3554BB2-272F-43DB-8344-EF58BD5B7540} (000fea69fe43)

Server hidden No
Maximum Logged On Users 10
Maximum open files per session 16384

Idle session time (min) 15
The command completed successfully.

Computer name \\OFFICEPC
Full Computer name officepc
User name Wyman

Workstation active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{B3554BB2-272F-43DB-8344-EF58BD5B7540} (000FEA69FE43)

Software version Windows 2002

Workstation domain WGHOME
Workstation Domain DNS Name (null)
Logon domain OFFICEPC

COM Open Timeout (sec) 0
COM Send Count (byte) 16
COM Send Timeout (msec) 250
The command completed successfully.

BROWSTAT:
Status for domain WGHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{B3554BB2-272F-43DB-8344-EF58BD5B7540}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: HPPAVILION
Could not connect to registry, error = 53 Unable to determine build
of browser master: 53
\\\\HPPAVILION . Version:05.01 Flags: 51203 NT POTENTIAL MASTER
1 backup servers retrieved from master HPPAVILION
\\HPPAVILION
There are 2 servers in domain WGHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{B3554BB2-272F-43DB-8344-EF58BD5B7540}
There are 1 domains in domain WGHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{B3554BB2-272F-43DB-8344-EF58BD5B7540}

#3 - VISTA ULTIMATE (Wireless desktop)
IPCONFIG INFO:
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Vista
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection :

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Linksys Wireless-G PCI Adapter #2
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-18-F8-AE-B9-3C
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.20(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, January 09, 2008 8:56:09
PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:56:09
PM
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.87.72.130
68.87.77.130
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

NET CONFIG INFO:
Server Name \\VISTA
Server Comment
Software version Windows Vista (TM) Ultimate
Server is active on
NetbiosSmb (VISTA)
Server hidden No
Maximum Logged On Users 10
Maximum open files per session 16384

Idle session time (min) 15
The command completed successfully.

Computer name \\VISTA
Full Computer name Vista
User name Wyman

Workstation active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)

Software version Windows Vista (TM) Ultimate

Workstation domain WGHOME
Logon domain VISTA

COM Open Timeout (sec) 0
COM Send Count (byte) 16
COM Send Timeout (msec) 250
The command completed successfully.

BROWSTAT:
(file was blank) no info given

So hopefully this is all the info you need but if you need more just let
me
know. I've also inserted links to some screen prints. Please note I've
since changed the name of the workgroup to WGHOME. Also, if you are
interested in connecting to my machine via LogMeIn, I'm open to that. I'm
on CST.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...tworkmap-1.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...eychgo/NSC.jpg

Thanks for your help.

Wy


Wy,

OK, what you have to work on is the NetBT issue on Vista. IPConfig, and
both
Net Config, logs show that NetBT is not active.

Try CDiag, run on all 3 computers.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-cdiag-without-assistance.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ssistance.html

And run "browstat status" on Vista, in a command window started AS ADMIN,
and
see what error you get.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/06/command-window-in-windows-vista.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/0...ows-vista.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.



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Old January 10th 08, 03:26 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing,microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
alexB
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Posts: 1,292
Default Why can't Vista see other computers

Control Panel ( Classic View) ==Network & Sharing Center==

Set Network Discovery ON.
Set File Sharing ON
Set Password Protected sharing ON

Place cursor on Network. Double click.
After a short while you should see all the computer on your network.

Keep double clicking on the computers.

If you need to do Printer sharing, make sure you enabled Printer sharing on the previous pane but first you must see the printer's image in the last window.

You will not be able to do any of these unless you first forced your XP to reciprocate.

In XP you will have to set up network shares for ALL users or only for your selves as administrator. It is also possible that you will need to elevate yourselves in Vista to the level of an administrator. Remember, you are not an administrator yet.

Open Command Prompt and run it "as administrator" Type lusrmgr.msc. It will give you a GUI: Local Users and Groups. Click on Groups thumbnail. In the Left pane find the group "Administrators" Add yourselves to this group. Close the GUI.

Enjoy your networking.

Forget about ipconfig.

Forget about NetBios.

Forget about NetBT.

If you are related to Jane Wyman I should say that I enjoyed her in a movie the other night: Let's do it over again. Do it over again with your LAN.

'"Wyman" wrote in message ...
I may have hijacked another post with my problem and I do apologize so I'll start a new topic.


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Old January 10th 08, 03:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing,microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
alexB
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Posts: 1,292
Default Why can't Vista see other computers

Sorry for reposting. I did not realize when I posted it a couple of minutes
ago that I did it in html. Now is the plain text.

Control Panel ( Classic View) ==Network & Sharing Center==

Set Network Discovery ON.
Set File Sharing ON
Set Password Protected sharing ON

Place cursor on Network. Double click.
After a short while you should see all the computer on your network.

Keep double clicking on the computers.

If you need to do Printer sharing, make sure you enabled Printer sharing on
the previous pane but first you must see the printer's image in the last
window.

You will not be able to do any of these unless you first forced your XP to
reciprocate.

In XP you will have to set up network shares for ALL users or only for your
selves as administrator. It is also possible that you will need to elevate
yourselves in Vista to the level of an administrator. Remember, you are not
an administrator yet.

Open Command Prompt and run it "as administrator" Type lusrmgr.msc. It will
give you a GUI: Local Users and Groups. Click on Groups thumbnail. In the
Left pane find the group "Administrators" Add yourselves to this group.
Close the GUI.

Enjoy your networking.

Forget about ipconfig.

Forget about NetBios.

Forget about NetBT.

If you are related to Jane Wyman I should say that I enjoyed her in a movie
the other night: Let's do it over again. Do it over again with your LAN.
"Wyman" wrote in message
...

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Old January 10th 08, 05:29 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web,microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
MattK
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Posts: 6
Default Why can't Vista see other computers

I have a similar problem. can see my xp computers from windows vista
machine, but can't access them (i click on the computers and get a message to
enterusername and password--i do and it says, incorrectly, that they are
wrong).

but what do you mean by this:

"In XP you will have to set up network shares for ALL users or only for your
selves as administrator"

if i can see the shared folders on the xp machine from another exp machine
the network shares must be set up, no?
and why all users. several of my user accounts (the ones i am trying to use
on vista) are identical on vista and xp (same username/password). but i have
accounts which i don't use on the xp machines that are not on the vista
machine. that shouldn't make a difference, should it?
--
Regards,
MattK


"alexB" wrote:

Sorry for reposting. I did not realize when I posted it a couple of minutes
ago that I did it in html. Now is the plain text.

Control Panel ( Classic View) ==Network & Sharing Center==

Set Network Discovery ON.
Set File Sharing ON
Set Password Protected sharing ON

Place cursor on Network. Double click.
After a short while you should see all the computer on your network.

Keep double clicking on the computers.

If you need to do Printer sharing, make sure you enabled Printer sharing on
the previous pane but first you must see the printer's image in the last
window.

You will not be able to do any of these unless you first forced your XP to
reciprocate.

In XP you will have to set up network shares for ALL users or only for your
selves as administrator. It is also possible that you will need to elevate
yourselves in Vista to the level of an administrator. Remember, you are not
an administrator yet.

Open Command Prompt and run it "as administrator" Type lusrmgr.msc. It will
give you a GUI: Local Users and Groups. Click on Groups thumbnail. In the
Left pane find the group "Administrators" Add yourselves to this group.
Close the GUI.

Enjoy your networking.

Forget about ipconfig.

Forget about NetBios.

Forget about NetBT.

If you are related to Jane Wyman I should say that I enjoyed her in a movie
the other night: Let's do it over again. Do it over again with your LAN.
"Wyman" wrote in message
...


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Old January 10th 08, 06:29 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web,microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
alexB
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Posts: 1,292
Default Why can't Vista see other computers

I want to disclaim myself that I am not a sure expert on anything. I am a
heavy user though, and I do not mean alcohol or drugs.

There is a GOOD chance that Vista does not take you seriously at all. The
fact that you paid 3 grand for this machine does have some relevance but you
have to establish it. You have to establish yourselves a one.

This is what you do (if you haven't already done it). You open Command
Prompt as "run as administrator" which gives you temporarily the rights of
the Administrator (and the administrator is an OBJECT in your machine). Then
you type lusrmgr.msc and do Carriage Return. You will see a GUI where you
will see in the Left Pane the Group thumbnail. Double click on it and in
the Right pane you will see a bunch of Groups. You should add yourselves to
the first Group: "ADMINISTRATORS." Note that there is already one member in
that group: Administrator--again it is an object not you. After you added
this name you may close the GUI or you may try to examine other groups.

There is a group the Network Configuration Operators. You may try to add
yourselves to it as well.

I am working sort of backwards in here.

Answering your question:

"In XP you will have to set up network shares for ALL users or only for
your
selves as administrator"


It's been about 6 months since I touched that part of XP. It is entirely
from memory. It is a fairly irresponsible statement. If there is a way to
establish sharing for "everyone" and you do not mind in terms of security,
you may as well do it.

Otherwise, set shared permissions for select group of users or for the
administrator which in XP I think is the person who signs himself in.

And the last thing:

but I have
accounts which I don't use on the xp machines that are not on the vista
machine. that shouldn't make a difference, should it?


Probably not. I should say, not at all, although I may be wrong.

With the passwords you should make sure that all the accounts are aligned,
go over them another time, make sure user names are spelled the same, that
you have the full right to access the Network. What else? Nothing comes to
mind at this point.

It is doable.

"MattK" wrote in message
...
I have a similar problem. can see my xp computers from windows vista
machine, but can't access them (i click on the computers and get a message
to
enterusername and password--i do and it says, incorrectly, that they are
wrong).

but what do you mean by this:

"In XP you will have to set up network shares for ALL users or only for
your
selves as administrator"

if i can see the shared folders on the xp machine from another exp machine
the network shares must be set up, no?
and why all users. several of my user accounts (the ones i am trying to
use
on vista) are identical on vista and xp (same username/password). but i
have
accounts which i don't use on the xp machines that are not on the vista
machine. that shouldn't make a difference, should it?
--
Regards,
MattK


"alexB" wrote:

Sorry for reposting. I did not realize when I posted it a couple of
minutes
ago that I did it in html. Now is the plain text.

Control Panel ( Classic View) ==Network & Sharing Center==

Set Network Discovery ON.
Set File Sharing ON
Set Password Protected sharing ON

Place cursor on Network. Double click.
After a short while you should see all the computer on your network.

Keep double clicking on the computers.

If you need to do Printer sharing, make sure you enabled Printer sharing
on
the previous pane but first you must see the printer's image in the last
window.

You will not be able to do any of these unless you first forced your XP
to
reciprocate.

In XP you will have to set up network shares for ALL users or only for
your
selves as administrator. It is also possible that you will need to
elevate
yourselves in Vista to the level of an administrator. Remember, you are
not
an administrator yet.

Open Command Prompt and run it "as administrator" Type lusrmgr.msc. It
will
give you a GUI: Local Users and Groups. Click on Groups thumbnail. In the
Left pane find the group "Administrators" Add yourselves to this group.
Close the GUI.

Enjoy your networking.

Forget about ipconfig.

Forget about NetBios.

Forget about NetBT.

If you are related to Jane Wyman I should say that I enjoyed her in a
movie
the other night: Let's do it over again. Do it over again with your LAN.
"Wyman" wrote in message
...



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Old January 10th 08, 10:19 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing,microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
Wyman[_2_]
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Posts: 9
Default Why can't Vista see other computers

Hi Chuck,

Unfortunately I'm having trouble understanding how to do the CDiag. Can I
contact you offline via phone or have you connect to my machine for
guidance? I've tried to run the browstat again on the Vista machine and get
the same response.

Wy

"Chuck [MVP]" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 08:37:37 -0600, "Wyman" wrote:

I may have hijacked another post with my problem and I do apologize so
I'll start a new topic.

I'm having trouble getting my Vista Ultimate desktop to see the XP
machines
and vice versa. The XPs see each other fine. I'll copy and paste all the
info I'm sure you'll need below
but let me say right now that the browstat wouldn't run on the Vista PC.
When I opened to text file it was empty. Also, you'll notice in the
ipconfig that it says NetBios over TCPIP is disable but it's not. I have
no
idea why it says disabled (see pic)
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1..._IPsetting.jpg. This
is gonna be lengthy so please forgive me. No firewalls are installed and
the one in Windows has been disabled.

#1 - XP Home (Wireless laptop)
IPCONFIG INFO:
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : HPPavilion
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.
Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection :
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
Network Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-02-46-7E-F0
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.16
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.87.72.130
68.87.77.130
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, January 09, 2008
8:56:05 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, January 10, 2008
8:56:05 PM

NET CONFIG INFO:
Server Name \\HPPAVILION
Server Comment My Laptop

Software version Windows 2002
Server is active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{C78B04BA-2931-4523-9388-45894790CA01} (001302467ef0)

Server hidden No
Maximum Logged On Users 5
Maximum open files per session 16384

Idle session time (min) 15
The command completed successfully.

Computer name \\HPPAVILION
Full Computer name HPPavilion
User name Wyman

Workstation active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{C78B04BA-2931-4523-9388-45894790CA01} (001302467EF0)

Software version Windows 2002

Workstation domain WGHOME
Workstation Domain DNS Name (null)
Logon domain HPPAVILION

COM Open Timeout (sec) 0
COM Send Count (byte) 16
COM Send Timeout (msec) 250
The command completed successfully

BROWSTAT:
Status for domain WGHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{C78B04BA-2931-4523-9388-45894790CA01}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: HPPAVILION
Master browser is running build 2600
1 backup servers retrieved from master HPPAVILION
\\HPPAVILION
There are 2 servers in domain WGHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{C78B04BA-2931-4523-9388-45894790CA01}
There are 1 domains in domain WGHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{C78B04BA-2931-4523-9388-45894790CA01}

#2 - XP MCE (Ethernet desktop)
IPCONFIG info:
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : officepc
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection :
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Marvell Yukon
88E8001/8003/8010
PCI Gigabit Ethernet Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0F-EA-69-FE-43
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.18
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.87.72.130
68.87.77.130
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, January 09, 2008
8:56:40 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, January 10, 2008
8:56:40 PM

NET CONFIG INFO:
Server Name \\OFFICEPC
Server Comment Office PC
Software version Windows 2002
Server is active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{B3554BB2-272F-43DB-8344-EF58BD5B7540} (000fea69fe43)

Server hidden No
Maximum Logged On Users 10
Maximum open files per session 16384

Idle session time (min) 15
The command completed successfully.

Computer name \\OFFICEPC
Full Computer name officepc
User name Wyman

Workstation active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{B3554BB2-272F-43DB-8344-EF58BD5B7540} (000FEA69FE43)

Software version Windows 2002

Workstation domain WGHOME
Workstation Domain DNS Name (null)
Logon domain OFFICEPC

COM Open Timeout (sec) 0
COM Send Count (byte) 16
COM Send Timeout (msec) 250
The command completed successfully.

BROWSTAT:
Status for domain WGHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{B3554BB2-272F-43DB-8344-EF58BD5B7540}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: HPPAVILION
Could not connect to registry, error = 53 Unable to determine build
of browser master: 53
\\\\HPPAVILION . Version:05.01 Flags: 51203 NT POTENTIAL MASTER
1 backup servers retrieved from master HPPAVILION
\\HPPAVILION
There are 2 servers in domain WGHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{B3554BB2-272F-43DB-8344-EF58BD5B7540}
There are 1 domains in domain WGHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{B3554BB2-272F-43DB-8344-EF58BD5B7540}

#3 - VISTA ULTIMATE (Wireless desktop)
IPCONFIG INFO:
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Vista
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection :

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Linksys Wireless-G PCI Adapter #2
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-18-F8-AE-B9-3C
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.20(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, January 09, 2008 8:56:09
PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:56:09
PM
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.87.72.130
68.87.77.130
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

NET CONFIG INFO:
Server Name \\VISTA
Server Comment
Software version Windows Vista (TM) Ultimate
Server is active on
NetbiosSmb (VISTA)
Server hidden No
Maximum Logged On Users 10
Maximum open files per session 16384

Idle session time (min) 15
The command completed successfully.

Computer name \\VISTA
Full Computer name Vista
User name Wyman

Workstation active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)

Software version Windows Vista (TM) Ultimate

Workstation domain WGHOME
Logon domain VISTA

COM Open Timeout (sec) 0
COM Send Count (byte) 16
COM Send Timeout (msec) 250
The command completed successfully.

BROWSTAT:
(file was blank) no info given

So hopefully this is all the info you need but if you need more just let
me
know. I've also inserted links to some screen prints. Please note I've
since changed the name of the workgroup to WGHOME. Also, if you are
interested in connecting to my machine via LogMeIn, I'm open to that. I'm
on CST.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...tworkmap-1.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...eychgo/NSC.jpg

Thanks for your help.

Wy


Wy,

OK, what you have to work on is the NetBT issue on Vista. IPConfig, and
both
Net Config, logs show that NetBT is not active.

Try CDiag, run on all 3 computers.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-cdiag-without-assistance.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ssistance.html

And run "browstat status" on Vista, in a command window started AS ADMIN,
and
see what error you get.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/06/command-window-in-windows-vista.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/0...ows-vista.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.



  #9 (permalink)  
Old January 10th 08, 10:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing,microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
Wy
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Posts: 10
Default Why can't Vista see other computers

Chuck - I don't know if it makes a difference or not but I have no problem
viewing the network using the Ethernet port on the Vista machine - it's the
Wireless that's the problem.

Wy

"Chuck [MVP]" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 08:37:37 -0600, "Wyman" wrote:

I may have hijacked another post with my problem and I do apologize so
I'll start a new topic.

I'm having trouble getting my Vista Ultimate desktop to see the XP
machines
and vice versa. The XPs see each other fine. I'll copy and paste all the
info I'm sure you'll need below
but let me say right now that the browstat wouldn't run on the Vista PC.
When I opened to text file it was empty. Also, you'll notice in the
ipconfig that it says NetBios over TCPIP is disable but it's not. I have
no
idea why it says disabled (see pic)
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1..._IPsetting.jpg. This
is gonna be lengthy so please forgive me. No firewalls are installed and
the one in Windows has been disabled.

#1 - XP Home (Wireless laptop)
IPCONFIG INFO:
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : HPPavilion
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.
Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection :
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
Network Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-02-46-7E-F0
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.16
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.87.72.130
68.87.77.130
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, January 09, 2008
8:56:05 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, January 10, 2008
8:56:05 PM

NET CONFIG INFO:
Server Name \\HPPAVILION
Server Comment My Laptop

Software version Windows 2002
Server is active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{C78B04BA-2931-4523-9388-45894790CA01} (001302467ef0)

Server hidden No
Maximum Logged On Users 5
Maximum open files per session 16384

Idle session time (min) 15
The command completed successfully.

Computer name \\HPPAVILION
Full Computer name HPPavilion
User name Wyman

Workstation active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{C78B04BA-2931-4523-9388-45894790CA01} (001302467EF0)

Software version Windows 2002

Workstation domain WGHOME
Workstation Domain DNS Name (null)
Logon domain HPPAVILION

COM Open Timeout (sec) 0
COM Send Count (byte) 16
COM Send Timeout (msec) 250
The command completed successfully

BROWSTAT:
Status for domain WGHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{C78B04BA-2931-4523-9388-45894790CA01}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: HPPAVILION
Master browser is running build 2600
1 backup servers retrieved from master HPPAVILION
\\HPPAVILION
There are 2 servers in domain WGHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{C78B04BA-2931-4523-9388-45894790CA01}
There are 1 domains in domain WGHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{C78B04BA-2931-4523-9388-45894790CA01}

#2 - XP MCE (Ethernet desktop)
IPCONFIG info:
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : officepc
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection :
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Marvell Yukon
88E8001/8003/8010
PCI Gigabit Ethernet Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0F-EA-69-FE-43
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.18
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.87.72.130
68.87.77.130
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, January 09, 2008
8:56:40 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, January 10, 2008
8:56:40 PM

NET CONFIG INFO:
Server Name \\OFFICEPC
Server Comment Office PC
Software version Windows 2002
Server is active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{B3554BB2-272F-43DB-8344-EF58BD5B7540} (000fea69fe43)

Server hidden No
Maximum Logged On Users 10
Maximum open files per session 16384

Idle session time (min) 15
The command completed successfully.

Computer name \\OFFICEPC
Full Computer name officepc
User name Wyman

Workstation active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{B3554BB2-272F-43DB-8344-EF58BD5B7540} (000FEA69FE43)

Software version Windows 2002

Workstation domain WGHOME
Workstation Domain DNS Name (null)
Logon domain OFFICEPC

COM Open Timeout (sec) 0
COM Send Count (byte) 16
COM Send Timeout (msec) 250
The command completed successfully.

BROWSTAT:
Status for domain WGHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{B3554BB2-272F-43DB-8344-EF58BD5B7540}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: HPPAVILION
Could not connect to registry, error = 53 Unable to determine build
of browser master: 53
\\\\HPPAVILION . Version:05.01 Flags: 51203 NT POTENTIAL MASTER
1 backup servers retrieved from master HPPAVILION
\\HPPAVILION
There are 2 servers in domain WGHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{B3554BB2-272F-43DB-8344-EF58BD5B7540}
There are 1 domains in domain WGHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{B3554BB2-272F-43DB-8344-EF58BD5B7540}

#3 - VISTA ULTIMATE (Wireless desktop)
IPCONFIG INFO:
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Vista
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection :

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Linksys Wireless-G PCI Adapter #2
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-18-F8-AE-B9-3C
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.20(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, January 09, 2008 8:56:09
PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:56:09
PM
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.87.72.130
68.87.77.130
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

NET CONFIG INFO:
Server Name \\VISTA
Server Comment
Software version Windows Vista (TM) Ultimate
Server is active on
NetbiosSmb (VISTA)
Server hidden No
Maximum Logged On Users 10
Maximum open files per session 16384

Idle session time (min) 15
The command completed successfully.

Computer name \\VISTA
Full Computer name Vista
User name Wyman

Workstation active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)

Software version Windows Vista (TM) Ultimate

Workstation domain WGHOME
Logon domain VISTA

COM Open Timeout (sec) 0
COM Send Count (byte) 16
COM Send Timeout (msec) 250
The command completed successfully.

BROWSTAT:
(file was blank) no info given

So hopefully this is all the info you need but if you need more just let
me
know. I've also inserted links to some screen prints. Please note I've
since changed the name of the workgroup to WGHOME. Also, if you are
interested in connecting to my machine via LogMeIn, I'm open to that. I'm
on CST.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...tworkmap-1.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...eychgo/NSC.jpg

Thanks for your help.

Wy


Wy,

OK, what you have to work on is the NetBT issue on Vista. IPConfig, and
both
Net Config, logs show that NetBT is not active.

Try CDiag, run on all 3 computers.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-cdiag-without-assistance.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ssistance.html

And run "browstat status" on Vista, in a command window started AS ADMIN,
and
see what error you get.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/06/command-window-in-windows-vista.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/0...ows-vista.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.



  #10 (permalink)  
Old January 11th 08, 05:30 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web,microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
MattK
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Posts: 6
Default Why can't Vista see other computers

unfortunately lusrmgr.msc doesn't work on vista home (i get an error message
saying it won't run on vista home premium). Not sure that would make a
difference--i am already an adminstrator. And i confirmed same
username/password combinations on all PCs.
--
Regards,
MattK


"alexB" wrote:

I want to disclaim myself that I am not a sure expert on anything. I am a
heavy user though, and I do not mean alcohol or drugs.

There is a GOOD chance that Vista does not take you seriously at all. The
fact that you paid 3 grand for this machine does have some relevance but you
have to establish it. You have to establish yourselves a one.

This is what you do (if you haven't already done it). You open Command
Prompt as "run as administrator" which gives you temporarily the rights of
the Administrator (and the administrator is an OBJECT in your machine). Then
you type lusrmgr.msc and do Carriage Return. You will see a GUI where you
will see in the Left Pane the Group thumbnail. Double click on it and in
the Right pane you will see a bunch of Groups. You should add yourselves to
the first Group: "ADMINISTRATORS." Note that there is already one member in
that group: Administrator--again it is an object not you. After you added
this name you may close the GUI or you may try to examine other groups.

There is a group the Network Configuration Operators. You may try to add
yourselves to it as well.

I am working sort of backwards in here.

Answering your question:

"In XP you will have to set up network shares for ALL users or only for
your
selves as administrator"


It's been about 6 months since I touched that part of XP. It is entirely
from memory. It is a fairly irresponsible statement. If there is a way to
establish sharing for "everyone" and you do not mind in terms of security,
you may as well do it.

Otherwise, set shared permissions for select group of users or for the
administrator which in XP I think is the person who signs himself in.

And the last thing:

but I have
accounts which I don't use on the xp machines that are not on the vista
machine. that shouldn't make a difference, should it?


Probably not. I should say, not at all, although I may be wrong.

With the passwords you should make sure that all the accounts are aligned,
go over them another time, make sure user names are spelled the same, that
you have the full right to access the Network. What else? Nothing comes to
mind at this point.

It is doable.

"MattK" wrote in message
...
I have a similar problem. can see my xp computers from windows vista
machine, but can't access them (i click on the computers and get a message
to
enterusername and password--i do and it says, incorrectly, that they are
wrong).

but what do you mean by this:

"In XP you will have to set up network shares for ALL users or only for
your
selves as administrator"

if i can see the shared folders on the xp machine from another exp machine
the network shares must be set up, no?
and why all users. several of my user accounts (the ones i am trying to
use
on vista) are identical on vista and xp (same username/password). but i
have
accounts which i don't use on the xp machines that are not on the vista
machine. that shouldn't make a difference, should it?
--
Regards,
MattK


"alexB" wrote:

Sorry for reposting. I did not realize when I posted it a couple of
minutes
ago that I did it in html. Now is the plain text.

Control Panel ( Classic View) ==Network & Sharing Center==

Set Network Discovery ON.
Set File Sharing ON
Set Password Protected sharing ON

Place cursor on Network. Double click.
After a short while you should see all the computer on your network.

Keep double clicking on the computers.

If you need to do Printer sharing, make sure you enabled Printer sharing
on
the previous pane but first you must see the printer's image in the last
window.

You will not be able to do any of these unless you first forced your XP
to
reciprocate.

In XP you will have to set up network shares for ALL users or only for
your
selves as administrator. It is also possible that you will need to
elevate
yourselves in Vista to the level of an administrator. Remember, you are
not
an administrator yet.

Open Command Prompt and run it "as administrator" Type lusrmgr.msc. It
will
give you a GUI: Local Users and Groups. Click on Groups thumbnail. In the
Left pane find the group "Administrators" Add yourselves to this group.
Close the GUI.

Enjoy your networking.

Forget about ipconfig.

Forget about NetBios.

Forget about NetBT.

If you are related to Jane Wyman I should say that I enjoyed her in a
movie
the other night: Let's do it over again. Do it over again with your LAN.
"Wyman" wrote in message
...




 




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