It seems to me that WM & WC should both sync with hotmail and live contacts
the way Windows Live Mail Desktop Beta does, in fact I think Vista should
replace windows mail with Windows Live Mail, this seems like such a no
brainer, why was this not done, is Microsoft waiting to charge for it like
the .MAC service.

How can the replacement for Outlook Express NOT support Hotmail!!!!

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"UKNCDC" wrote in message
news
It seems to me that WM & WC should both sync with hotmail and live
contacts
the way Windows Live Mail Desktop Beta does, in fact I think Vista should
replace windows mail with Windows Live Mail, this seems like such a no
brainer, why was this not done, is Microsoft waiting to charge for it like
the .MAC service.

How can the replacement for Outlook Express NOT support Hotmail!!!!


So that you'll switch to WLMDb.
I refuse. I find the UI clunky and won't use it for anything but the WLMD
newsgroup because I can't add a toolbar button for Next unread message.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Reply in newsgroup
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve
neither liberty or security"

I never use that button. I just click on the next message.

steve

"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE" wrote in message
...
"UKNCDC" wrote in message
news
It seems to me that WM & WC should both sync with hotmail and live
contacts
the way Windows Live Mail Desktop Beta does, in fact I think Vista should
replace windows mail with Windows Live Mail, this seems like such a no
brainer, why was this not done, is Microsoft waiting to charge for it
like
the .MAC service.

How can the replacement for Outlook Express NOT support Hotmail!!!!


So that you'll switch to WLMDb.
I refuse. I find the UI clunky and won't use it for anything but the WLMD
newsgroup because I can't add a toolbar button for Next unread message.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Reply in newsgroup
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security,
deserve neither liberty or security"

"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
I never use that button. I just click on the next message.

steve

"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE" wrote in message
...
"UKNCDC" wrote in message
news
It seems to me that WM & WC should both sync with hotmail and live
contacts
the way Windows Live Mail Desktop Beta does, in fact I think Vista
should
replace windows mail with Windows Live Mail, this seems like such a no
brainer, why was this not done, is Microsoft waiting to charge for it
like
the .MAC service.

How can the replacement for Outlook Express NOT support Hotmail!!!!


So that you'll switch to WLMDb.
I refuse. I find the UI clunky and won't use it for anything but the
WLMD newsgroup because I can't add a toolbar button for Next unread
message.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Reply in newsgroup
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security,
deserve neither liberty or security"




What about when the next unread message is down 1246 messages?
I know Ctrl-U works, but that's not what I want.
I really dislike that program, but it seems to be a step down from OE.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Reply in newsgroup
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve
neither liberty or security"

So you guys are happy with the way these things have turned out? Is the
reason that MS has not integrated teh Live services becuase of Anti-trust??

"Steve Cochran" wrote:

I never use that button. I just click on the next message.

steve

"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE" wrote in message
...
"UKNCDC" wrote in message
news
It seems to me that WM & WC should both sync with hotmail and live
contacts
the way Windows Live Mail Desktop Beta does, in fact I think Vista should
replace windows mail with Windows Live Mail, this seems like such a no
brainer, why was this not done, is Microsoft waiting to charge for it
like
the .MAC service.

How can the replacement for Outlook Express NOT support Hotmail!!!!


So that you'll switch to WLMDb.
I refuse. I find the UI clunky and won't use it for anything but the WLMD
newsgroup because I can't add a toolbar button for Next unread message.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Reply in newsgroup
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security,
deserve neither liberty or security"

"UKNCDC" wrote in message
...
So you guys are happy with the way these things have turned out? Is the
reason that MS has not integrated teh Live services becuase of
Anti-trust??

I doubt if anti-trust concerns have anything to do with it.. Like I said,
they would prefer having you switch to WLMD.

No, I'm not happy. I have no idea what made you think I was. My irritation
rises to the point of anger, but I will quit before I write a 500 word rant.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Reply in newsgroup
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve
neither liberty or security"

I understand. Has the community expressed this to MS? Do you think changes
will be made?

"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE" wrote:

"UKNCDC" wrote in message
...
So you guys are happy with the way these things have turned out? Is the
reason that MS has not integrated teh Live services becuase of
Anti-trust??

I doubt if anti-trust concerns have anything to do with it.. Like I said,
they would prefer having you switch to WLMD.

No, I'm not happy. I have no idea what made you think I was. My irritation
rises to the point of anger, but I will quit before I write a 500 word rant.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Reply in newsgroup
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve
neither liberty or security"

"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE" wrote in message
...
"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
I never use that button. I just click on the next message.

steve

"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE" wrote in message
...
"UKNCDC" wrote in message
news It seems to me that WM & WC should both sync with hotmail and live
contacts
the way Windows Live Mail Desktop Beta does, in fact I think Vista
should
replace windows mail with Windows Live Mail, this seems like such a no
brainer, why was this not done, is Microsoft waiting to charge for it
like
the .MAC service.

How can the replacement for Outlook Express NOT support Hotmail!!!!


So that you'll switch to WLMDb.
I refuse. I find the UI clunky and won't use it for anything but the
WLMD newsgroup because I can't add a toolbar button for Next unread
message.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Reply in newsgroup
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security,
deserve neither liberty or security"




What about when the next unread message is down 1246 messages?
I know Ctrl-U works, but that's not what I want.
I really dislike that program, but it seems to be a step down from OE.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Reply in newsgroup
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security,
deserve neither liberty or security"



I always have it set to view unread messages only (almost always), so I
don't see the other messages.

steve

I haven't tried WLMDB at all and don't have it on a priority list to try it.
I'm too busy with other stuff, such as trying to debug Windows Mail in Vista
before they ship it out the door infested.

steve

"UKNCDC" wrote in message
...
So you guys are happy with the way these things have turned out? Is the
reason that MS has not integrated teh Live services becuase of
Anti-trust??

"Steve Cochran" wrote:

I never use that button. I just click on the next message.

steve

"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE" wrote in message
...
"UKNCDC" wrote in message
news It seems to me that WM & WC should both sync with hotmail and live
contacts
the way Windows Live Mail Desktop Beta does, in fact I think Vista
should
replace windows mail with Windows Live Mail, this seems like such a no
brainer, why was this not done, is Microsoft waiting to charge for it
like
the .MAC service.

How can the replacement for Outlook Express NOT support Hotmail!!!!


So that you'll switch to WLMDb.
I refuse. I find the UI clunky and won't use it for anything but the
WLMD
newsgroup because I can't add a toolbar button for Next unread message.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Reply in newsgroup
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security,
deserve neither liberty or security"

Well good luck with that, IMO WLMD is a much better product, I like the
search, RSS reading and interface plus integration with my live contacts.

"Steve Cochran" wrote:

I haven't tried WLMDB at all and don't have it on a priority list to try it.
I'm too busy with other stuff, such as trying to debug Windows Mail in Vista
before they ship it out the door infested.

steve

"UKNCDC" wrote in message
...
So you guys are happy with the way these things have turned out? Is the
reason that MS has not integrated teh Live services becuase of
Anti-trust??

"Steve Cochran" wrote:

I never use that button. I just click on the next message.

steve

"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE" wrote in message
...
"UKNCDC" wrote in message
news It seems to me that WM & WC should both sync with hotmail and live
contacts
the way Windows Live Mail Desktop Beta does, in fact I think Vista
should
replace windows mail with Windows Live Mail, this seems like such a no
brainer, why was this not done, is Microsoft waiting to charge for it
like
the .MAC service.

How can the replacement for Outlook Express NOT support Hotmail!!!!


So that you'll switch to WLMDb.
I refuse. I find the UI clunky and won't use it for anything but the
WLMD
newsgroup because I can't add a toolbar button for Next unread message.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Reply in newsgroup
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security,
deserve neither liberty or security"