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Old January 18th 08, 02:51 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
Derek Da Silva
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Hi Everyone,

I have a 80Gb HD. I created a C: volume of 20GB and the 50GB went to
another new volume (D: drive). I have 10GB of unallocated space.

I recently noticed I need more HD space on the C: drive. I went into the
Disk MGMT tools and when I attempted extend the C volume the Extend operation
was greyed out.

How do I extend my C: drive so that the remaining 10GB of unallocated space
goes to my C: d rive?

Thank you,
D
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Old January 18th 08, 03:04 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
Synapse Syndrome
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"Derek Da Silva" wrote in message
...
Hi Everyone,

I have a 80Gb HD. I created a C: volume of 20GB and the 50GB went to
another new volume (D: drive). I have 10GB of unallocated space.

I recently noticed I need more HD space on the C: drive. I went into the
Disk MGMT tools and when I attempted extend the C volume the Extend
operation
was greyed out.

How do I extend my C: drive so that the remaining 10GB of unallocated
space
goes to my C: d rive?



I don't think that the Disk Management can resize system drives, but Acronis
Disk Director can, as it reboots and does it outside Windows. It is
possible that the trial version will be able to do this without you having
to buy the full product.

http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing.../diskdirector/

ss.


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Old January 18th 08, 03:07 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
Carey Frisch [MVP]
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Working Around Windows Vista's "Shrink Volume" Inadequacy Problems:
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windo...uacy-problems/

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Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User

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"Derek Da Silva" wrote:

Hi Everyone,

I have a 80Gb HD. I created a C: volume of 20GB and the 50GB went to
another new volume (D: drive). I have 10GB of unallocated space.

I recently noticed I need more HD space on the C: drive. I went into the
Disk MGMT tools and when I attempted extend the C volume the Extend operation
was greyed out.

How do I extend my C: drive so that the remaining 10GB of unallocated space
goes to my C: d rive?

Thank you,
D
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Old January 18th 08, 03:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
MICHAEL[_2_]
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"Synapse Syndrome" wrote in message
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"Derek Da Silva" wrote in message
...
Hi Everyone,

I have a 80Gb HD. I created a C: volume of 20GB and the 50GB went to
another new volume (D: drive). I have 10GB of unallocated space.

I recently noticed I need more HD space on the C: drive. I went into the
Disk MGMT tools and when I attempted extend the C volume the Extend operation
was greyed out.

How do I extend my C: drive so that the remaining 10GB of unallocated space
goes to my C: d rive?



I don't think that the Disk Management can resize system drives, but Acronis Disk Director
can, as it reboots and does it outside Windows. It is possible that the trial version will
be able to do this without you having to buy the full product.

http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing.../diskdirector/

ss.


Vista's Disk Management can resize partitions.

Although, I use Disk Director, too.


-Michael

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Old January 18th 08, 03:20 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
Synapse Syndrome
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"Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote in message
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Working Around Windows Vista's "Shrink Volume" Inadequacy Problems:
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windo...uacy-problems/



But he is trying to extend the volume, not shrink it, so immovable system
files will not need to be moved.

ss.


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Old January 18th 08, 03:23 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
Synapse Syndrome
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"MICHAEL" wrote in message
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Vista's Disk Management can resize partitions.



Yeah, I know it can resize partitions, but I meant system partitions. It
seems that it can do those as well anyway, but I have never used it. I
wonder how it can resize a live Windows partition without exiting Windows,
like the way Partition Magic did, or Disk Director does.

ss.


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Old January 18th 08, 04:08 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
R. C. White
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Hi, Derek.

Yes, Vista CAN extend the System Volume - IF there is CONTIGUOUS free space
immediately following that volume. But the System Volume cannot be a
"dynamic volume", so it can't use non-contiguous space.

Depending on what is in that 50 GB Drive D:, you MAY be able to do what you
want in multiple steps. For example, if only 20 GB of the 50 is used, then
this plan can work, using only Disk Management and other tools built into
Vista...

1. Defrag Drive D: to be sure that all that 20 GB is at the front of that
volume.

2. Shrink Drive D: to 30 GB (leaving plenty of elbow room, just in case).

3. Create and format a new 30 GB Drive X: in the space following Drive
D:. There was 10 GB there before, and we just freed 20 GB more in Step 2.

4. Use Xcopy.exe or Robocopy.exe or even good old Windows Explorer to
MOVE everything from Drive D: to Drive X:.

5. Delete Drive X:. This will leave 30 GB of contiguous free space
following Drive C:.

6. Extend Drive C:. It will default to the full 30 GB that is available,
making your new Drive C: 50 GB. With your 30 GB Drive X:, you will have no
free space left.

7. Rename Drive X: to Drive D:.

You might prefer to limit Drive C: in Step 6; if so, be sure to note that
the wizard specifies space in MEGABYTES, not GIGABYTES. To extend Drive C:
by 10 GB, you must enter 10,000, not 10! (Yes, I've made this mistake -
more than once.)

Many variations are possible, depending on how much of Drive D: is already
used, and on how far you want to extend Drive C:, and on whether you want
any free space left after all this. I'll leave all those variations for
your own calculations.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64)

"Derek Da Silva" wrote in message
...
Hi Everyone,

I have a 80Gb HD. I created a C: volume of 20GB and the 50GB went to
another new volume (D: drive). I have 10GB of unallocated space.

I recently noticed I need more HD space on the C: drive. I went into the
Disk MGMT tools and when I attempted extend the C volume the Extend
operation
was greyed out.

How do I extend my C: drive so that the remaining 10GB of unallocated
space
goes to my C: d rive?

Thank you,
D


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Old January 18th 08, 04:28 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
R. C. White
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Whoops! I've edited Step 5, below. Delete Drive D:, of course, not Drive
X:.

RC
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R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64)

"R. C. White" wrote in message
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Hi, Derek.

Yes, Vista CAN extend the System Volume - IF there is CONTIGUOUS free
space immediately following that volume. But the System Volume cannot be
a "dynamic volume", so it can't use non-contiguous space.

Depending on what is in that 50 GB Drive D:, you MAY be able to do what
you want in multiple steps. For example, if only 20 GB of the 50 is used,
then this plan can work, using only Disk Management and other tools built
into Vista...

1. Defrag Drive D: to be sure that all that 20 GB is at the front of
that volume.

2. Shrink Drive D: to 30 GB (leaving plenty of elbow room, just in
case).

3. Create and format a new 30 GB Drive X: in the space following Drive
D:. There was 10 GB there before, and we just freed 20 GB more in Step 2.

4. Use Xcopy.exe or Robocopy.exe or even good old Windows Explorer to
MOVE everything from Drive D: to Drive X:.

5. Delete Drive D:. This will leave 30 GB of contiguous free space
following Drive C:.

6. Extend Drive C:. It will default to the full 30 GB that is
available, making your new Drive C: 50 GB. With your 30 GB Drive X:, you
will have no free space left.

7. Rename Drive X: to Drive D:.

You might prefer to limit Drive C: in Step 6; if so, be sure to note that
the wizard specifies space in MEGABYTES, not GIGABYTES. To extend Drive
C: by 10 GB, you must enter 10,000, not 10! (Yes, I've made this
mistake - more than once.)

Many variations are possible, depending on how much of Drive D: is already
used, and on how far you want to extend Drive C:, and on whether you want
any free space left after all this. I'll leave all those variations for
your own calculations.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64)

"Derek Da Silva" wrote in message
...
Hi Everyone,

I have a 80Gb HD. I created a C: volume of 20GB and the 50GB went to
another new volume (D: drive). I have 10GB of unallocated space.

I recently noticed I need more HD space on the C: drive. I went into the
Disk MGMT tools and when I attempted extend the C volume the Extend
operation
was greyed out.

How do I extend my C: drive so that the remaining 10GB of unallocated
space
goes to my C: d rive?

Thank you,
D


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Old January 19th 08, 12:16 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
Kerry Brown
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Default Extend Volume

"Derek Da Silva" wrote in message
...
Hi Everyone,

I have a 80Gb HD. I created a C: volume of 20GB and the 50GB went to
another new volume (D: drive). I have 10GB of unallocated space.

I recently noticed I need more HD space on the C: drive. I went into the
Disk MGMT tools and when I attempted extend the C volume the Extend
operation
was greyed out.

How do I extend my C: drive so that the remaining 10GB of unallocated
space
goes to my C: d rive?

Thank you,
D



Backup C: and D:. Test the backup. Back everything up again to different
media. Defrag C:. Delete the partition D: resides in. Leave the space as
unallocated. Reboot. Extend the C: partition by 10 GB. I'd actually
recommend more than that if Vista resides on this partition. 40 GB would be
a better number. Create a new partition in the remaining space and format
it. Restore the backup to this new partition.

The partition resizing features in Vista are quite primitive. The above
procedure may still fail. You may have to use 3rd party software to
accomplish this.

It is imperative you backup before trying this no matter what software or
method you use. Playing with partition tables is an open invitation to
Murphy. You could easily lose either or both partitions.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/



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Old January 20th 08, 02:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
Derek Da Silva
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Hi RC,

It worked! I was able to make my system drive (C larger.

Thank you everyone for your advice,
D

"R. C. White" wrote:

Hi, Derek.

Yes, Vista CAN extend the System Volume - IF there is CONTIGUOUS free space
immediately following that volume. But the System Volume cannot be a
"dynamic volume", so it can't use non-contiguous space.

Depending on what is in that 50 GB Drive D:, you MAY be able to do what you
want in multiple steps. For example, if only 20 GB of the 50 is used, then
this plan can work, using only Disk Management and other tools built into
Vista...

1. Defrag Drive D: to be sure that all that 20 GB is at the front of that
volume.

2. Shrink Drive D: to 30 GB (leaving plenty of elbow room, just in case).

3. Create and format a new 30 GB Drive X: in the space following Drive
D:. There was 10 GB there before, and we just freed 20 GB more in Step 2.

4. Use Xcopy.exe or Robocopy.exe or even good old Windows Explorer to
MOVE everything from Drive D: to Drive X:.

5. Delete Drive X:. This will leave 30 GB of contiguous free space
following Drive C:.

6. Extend Drive C:. It will default to the full 30 GB that is available,
making your new Drive C: 50 GB. With your 30 GB Drive X:, you will have no
free space left.

7. Rename Drive X: to Drive D:.

You might prefer to limit Drive C: in Step 6; if so, be sure to note that
the wizard specifies space in MEGABYTES, not GIGABYTES. To extend Drive C:
by 10 GB, you must enter 10,000, not 10! (Yes, I've made this mistake -
more than once.)

Many variations are possible, depending on how much of Drive D: is already
used, and on how far you want to extend Drive C:, and on whether you want
any free space left after all this. I'll leave all those variations for
your own calculations.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64)

"Derek Da Silva" wrote in message
...
Hi Everyone,

I have a 80Gb HD. I created a C: volume of 20GB and the 50GB went to
another new volume (D: drive). I have 10GB of unallocated space.

I recently noticed I need more HD space on the C: drive. I went into the
Disk MGMT tools and when I attempted extend the C volume the Extend
operation
was greyed out.

How do I extend my C: drive so that the remaining 10GB of unallocated
space
goes to my C: d rive?

Thank you,
D


 




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