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Loss of Fax capability with Vista Home Premium



 
 
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Old January 20th 08, 02:56 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.print_fax_scan
Laurence
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Default Loss of Fax capability with Vista Home Premium

I have just purchased a new computer from Dell and assumed I would have some
problems learning a new OS, but I did not anticipate the loss of a good
applet like Microsoft Fax. I counted on this small program for occasional
direct communication with other facilities fax machine. It was quick and
easy.
I have a second older Dell computer which I invested with hardware updates
in preparation for upgrading to Vista as well. The lack of fax capability in
Vista precludes my upgading as I need one machine that can function in a more
complete manner. I don't pretend to understand the rationale behind this
lack in Vista but I sorely miss the function. Others have teased me about my
early adoption of Vista and now I am definitely embarrassed. I sincerely
hope Microsoft will reconsider this situation and perhaps at least offer a
download correction to improve the functionality of this Vista suite.
Otherwise potential customers ought to consider this suite as crippled and of
less value than intended.

----------------
This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
click "I Agree" in the message pane.

http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...i nt_fax_scan
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Old January 20th 08, 07:23 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.print_fax_scan
Chuck[_2_]
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Posts: 445
Default Loss of Fax capability with Vista Home Premium

Microsoft has downgraded the fax functionality windows version by version
since they started using their own TCPIP stack.
I don't know if it is due to support cost, redevelopment cost, or a
concession to third party app developers.
In any event, there are 3d party fax apps that are inexpensive. It is also
supposedly possible to get the fax function to work via office outlook,
although I've not tried it. I'd poke around in the office newsgroup to see
if someone has solved your problem.

"Laurence" wrote in message
...
I have just purchased a new computer from Dell and assumed I would have

some
problems learning a new OS, but I did not anticipate the loss of a good
applet like Microsoft Fax. I counted on this small program for occasional
direct communication with other facilities fax machine. It was quick and
easy.
I have a second older Dell computer which I invested with hardware updates
in preparation for upgrading to Vista as well. The lack of fax capability

in
Vista precludes my upgading as I need one machine that can function in a

more
complete manner. I don't pretend to understand the rationale behind this
lack in Vista but I sorely miss the function. Others have teased me about

my
early adoption of Vista and now I am definitely embarrassed. I sincerely
hope Microsoft will reconsider this situation and perhaps at least offer a
download correction to improve the functionality of this Vista suite.
Otherwise potential customers ought to consider this suite as crippled and

of
less value than intended.

----------------
This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow

this
link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
click "I Agree" in the message pane.


http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...ndows.vista.pr
int_fax_scan


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Old January 20th 08, 07:28 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.print_fax_scan
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
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Posts: 534
Default Loss of Fax capability with Vista Home Premium

Wrong on 2 counts: Vista Fax and Scan is a noticeable improvement over
Windows XP Fax and Windows 2000 Fax. Neither Office nor Outlook contain any
fax software.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Chuck" wrote in message
...
Microsoft has downgraded the fax functionality windows version by version
since they started using their own TCPIP stack.
I don't know if it is due to support cost, redevelopment cost, or a
concession to third party app developers.
In any event, there are 3d party fax apps that are inexpensive. It is also
supposedly possible to get the fax function to work via office outlook,
although I've not tried it. I'd poke around in the office newsgroup to see
if someone has solved your problem.

"Laurence" wrote in message
...
I have just purchased a new computer from Dell and assumed I would have

some
problems learning a new OS, but I did not anticipate the loss of a good
applet like Microsoft Fax. I counted on this small program for
occasional
direct communication with other facilities fax machine. It was quick and
easy.
I have a second older Dell computer which I invested with hardware
updates
in preparation for upgrading to Vista as well. The lack of fax
capability

in
Vista precludes my upgading as I need one machine that can function in a

more
complete manner. I don't pretend to understand the rationale behind this
lack in Vista but I sorely miss the function. Others have teased me about

my
early adoption of Vista and now I am definitely embarrassed. I sincerely
hope Microsoft will reconsider this situation and perhaps at least offer
a
download correction to improve the functionality of this Vista suite.
Otherwise potential customers ought to consider this suite as crippled
and

of
less value than intended.

----------------
This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
"I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow

this
link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
then
click "I Agree" in the message pane.


http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...ndows.vista.pr
int_fax_scan



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Old January 21st 08, 04:41 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.print_fax_scan
Mike Hall - MVP[_2_]
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Default Loss of Fax capability with Vista Home Premium

"Laurence" wrote in message
...
I have just purchased a new computer from Dell and assumed I would have
some
problems learning a new OS, but I did not anticipate the loss of a good
applet like Microsoft Fax. I counted on this small program for occasional
direct communication with other facilities fax machine. It was quick and
easy.
I have a second older Dell computer which I invested with hardware updates
in preparation for upgrading to Vista as well. The lack of fax capability
in
Vista precludes my upgading as I need one machine that can function in a
more
complete manner. I don't pretend to understand the rationale behind this
lack in Vista but I sorely miss the function. Others have teased me about
my
early adoption of Vista and now I am definitely embarrassed. I sincerely
hope Microsoft will reconsider this situation and perhaps at least offer a
download correction to improve the functionality of this Vista suite.
Otherwise potential customers ought to consider this suite as crippled and
of
less value than intended.

_scan


While you are waiting for MS to rethink Fax software in Vista Home Premium,
visit this website, download the trial, and if you like what you see, buy
it..

http://www.snappysoftware.com/

--
Mike Hall - MVP
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx




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Old January 31st 08, 05:10 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.print_fax_scan
Chuck[_2_]
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Posts: 445
Default Loss of Fax capability with Vista Home Premium

Actually MS HAS downgraded the fax software in several different ways since
2000 and 95.
When you installed the complete version of office with outlook you did get
full fax capability, although the install was somewhat problematic here and
there.
Networking fax was crippled in later versions. Modem control was crippled,
and the modem reply processor was crippled.
Some features were moved to the "server" versions.
The better 3d party fax apps generally had//have more features anyway.
HP, Brother, and Canon multi's to name 3 have fax programs included, and
those with networking built in usually have network fax available as well
for a limited number of users.

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
Wrong on 2 counts: Vista Fax and Scan is a noticeable improvement over
Windows XP Fax and Windows 2000 Fax. Neither Office nor Outlook contain

any
fax software.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Chuck" wrote in message
...
Microsoft has downgraded the fax functionality windows version by

version
since they started using their own TCPIP stack.
I don't know if it is due to support cost, redevelopment cost, or a
concession to third party app developers.
In any event, there are 3d party fax apps that are inexpensive. It is

also
supposedly possible to get the fax function to work via office outlook,
although I've not tried it. I'd poke around in the office newsgroup to

see
if someone has solved your problem.

"Laurence" wrote in message
...
I have just purchased a new computer from Dell and assumed I would have

some
problems learning a new OS, but I did not anticipate the loss of a good
applet like Microsoft Fax. I counted on this small program for
occasional
direct communication with other facilities fax machine. It was quick

and
easy.
I have a second older Dell computer which I invested with hardware
updates
in preparation for upgrading to Vista as well. The lack of fax
capability

in
Vista precludes my upgading as I need one machine that can function in

a
more
complete manner. I don't pretend to understand the rationale behind

this
lack in Vista but I sorely miss the function. Others have teased me

about
my
early adoption of Vista and now I am definitely embarrassed. I

sincerely
hope Microsoft will reconsider this situation and perhaps at least

offer
a
download correction to improve the functionality of this Vista suite.
Otherwise potential customers ought to consider this suite as crippled
and

of
less value than intended.

----------------
This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
"I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow

this
link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
then
click "I Agree" in the message pane.



http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...ndows.vista.pr
int_fax_scan





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Old March 4th 08, 04:44 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.print_fax_scan
secretchef
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Posts: 2
Default Loss of Fax capability with Vista Home Premium

I can fax from 3 old computers with 3.11 win 95 and win 98 and XP, before
that I seem to remember that I could fax from my Atari. What the heck is
going on with Vista? I thought I was purchasing an upgrade. Very poor.

"Mike Hall - MVP" wrote:

"Laurence" wrote in message
...
I have just purchased a new computer from Dell and assumed I would have
some
problems learning a new OS, but I did not anticipate the loss of a good
applet like Microsoft Fax. I counted on this small program for occasional
direct communication with other facilities fax machine. It was quick and
easy.
I have a second older Dell computer which I invested with hardware updates
in preparation for upgrading to Vista as well. The lack of fax capability
in
Vista precludes my upgading as I need one machine that can function in a
more
complete manner. I don't pretend to understand the rationale behind this
lack in Vista but I sorely miss the function. Others have teased me about
my
early adoption of Vista and now I am definitely embarrassed. I sincerely
hope Microsoft will reconsider this situation and perhaps at least offer a
download correction to improve the functionality of this Vista suite.
Otherwise potential customers ought to consider this suite as crippled and
of
less value than intended.

_scan


While you are waiting for MS to rethink Fax software in Vista Home Premium,
visit this website, download the trial, and if you like what you see, buy
it..

http://www.snappysoftware.com/

--
Mike Hall - MVP
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx





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Old March 6th 08, 04:12 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.print_fax_scan
Hubert WEIL
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Posts: 2
Default Loss of Fax capability with Vista Home Premium

Same problem...

I bought a Vista computer with a OLITEC fax/Modem..

The Modem works (very badfull) with AOL..
But not the FAX Software !!

Drivers Problems that OLITEC WILL NOT RESOLVE !!

Thanks...


"secretchef" a écrit dans le message
de ...
I can fax from 3 old computers with 3.11 win 95 and win 98 and XP, before
that I seem to remember that I could fax from my Atari. What the heck is
going on with Vista? I thought I was purchasing an upgrade. Very poor.

"Mike Hall - MVP" wrote:

"Laurence" wrote in message
...
I have just purchased a new computer from Dell and assumed I would have
some
problems learning a new OS, but I did not anticipate the loss of a good
applet like Microsoft Fax. I counted on this small program for
occasional
direct communication with other facilities fax machine. It was quick
and
easy.
I have a second older Dell computer which I invested with hardware
updates
in preparation for upgrading to Vista as well. The lack of fax
capability
in
Vista precludes my upgading as I need one machine that can function in
a
more
complete manner. I don't pretend to understand the rationale behind
this
lack in Vista but I sorely miss the function. Others have teased me
about
my
early adoption of Vista and now I am definitely embarrassed. I
sincerely
hope Microsoft will reconsider this situation and perhaps at least
offer a
download correction to improve the functionality of this Vista suite.
Otherwise potential customers ought to consider this suite as crippled
and
of
less value than intended.

_scan


While you are waiting for MS to rethink Fax software in Vista Home
Premium,
visit this website, download the trial, and if you like what you see, buy
it..

http://www.snappysoftware.com/

--
Mike Hall - MVP
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx






  #8 (permalink)  
Old March 8th 08, 08:21 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.print_fax_scan
secretchef
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Posts: 2
Default Loss of Fax capability with Vista Home Premium



"secretchef" wrote:

I can fax from 3 old computers with 3.11 win 95 and win 98 and XP, before
that I seem to remember that I could fax from my Atari. What the heck is
going on with Vista? I thought I was purchasing an upgrade. Very poor.

"Mike Hall - MVP" wrote:

"Laurence" wrote in message
...
I have just purchased a new computer from Dell and assumed I would have
some
problems learning a new OS, but I did not anticipate the loss of a good
applet like Microsoft Fax. I counted on this small program for occasional
direct communication with other facilities fax machine. It was quick and
easy.
I have a second older Dell computer which I invested with hardware updates
in preparation for upgrading to Vista as well. The lack of fax capability
in
Vista precludes my upgading as I need one machine that can function in a
more
complete manner. I don't pretend to understand the rationale behind this
lack in Vista but I sorely miss the function. Others have teased me about
my
early adoption of Vista and now I am definitely embarrassed. I sincerely
hope Microsoft will reconsider this situation and perhaps at least offer a
download correction to improve the functionality of this Vista suite.
Otherwise potential customers ought to consider this suite as crippled and
of
less value than intended.

_scan


While you are waiting for MS to rethink Fax software in Vista Home Premium,
visit this website, download the trial, and if you like what you see, buy
it..

http://www.snappysoftware.com/

--
Mike Hall - MVP
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx


Thanks Mike. I saw your posts before--I DONT WANT to have to purchase other software. I think Mac or some other OS is probably the way forward.


 




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