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the old xp network and vista laptop issue



 
 
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Old March 23rd 08, 10:31 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
r.bartlett
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Default the old xp network and vista laptop issue

Hi guy's

My 2 new vista laptops won't see either the network set up at home or my
office (both as 'OFFICE') or vice versa. I downloaded the LLTD and it's made
not one jot of difference..Been through the sharing etc.

*The 2 lappys see eachother BTW*

I downloaded network magic demo on one laptop and the main PC at home and
appears the network is correct as they both see eachother . (it even sees
the one laptop which hasn't got NM on it)

I must say I'm kinda disappointed that Vista and XP are not properly
configured to automatically 'see' eachother and have to resort to a 3rd
party to do so?

That aside I have three options

1 Dump Vista (my current fav ;-)
2 Solve this problem
3 Buy NM for home/work

If anyone has any input I'd love to see if no/ 2 can be cracked!

Cheers

Richard


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Old March 23rd 08, 01:27 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
Rick Rogers
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Default the old xp network and vista laptop issue

Hi,

Have you enabled Network Discovery in the Network and Sharing Center yet?

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"r.bartlett" wrote in message
...
Hi guy's

My 2 new vista laptops won't see either the network set up at home or my
office (both as 'OFFICE') or vice versa. I downloaded the LLTD and it's
made not one jot of difference..Been through the sharing etc.

*The 2 lappys see eachother BTW*

I downloaded network magic demo on one laptop and the main PC at home and
appears the network is correct as they both see eachother . (it even sees
the one laptop which hasn't got NM on it)

I must say I'm kinda disappointed that Vista and XP are not properly
configured to automatically 'see' eachother and have to resort to a 3rd
party to do so?

That aside I have three options

1 Dump Vista (my current fav ;-)
2 Solve this problem
3 Buy NM for home/work

If anyone has any input I'd love to see if no/ 2 can be cracked!

Cheers

Richard



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Old March 23rd 08, 09:33 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
r.bartlett
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Default the old xp network and vista laptop issue

As I said in my post, I have been through sharing and discovery, all to no
avail....

Cheers

Richard


"Rick Rogers" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Have you enabled Network Discovery in the Network and Sharing Center yet?

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP



...Been through the sharing etc.

Cheers

Richard






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Old March 23rd 08, 10:58 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
Rick Rogers
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Default the old xp network and vista laptop issue

Actually, no you didn't say that. You only mentioned some third party tool
you tried, something I've never found necessary but that can also confuse
matters further. All that should be required is that both systems are on the
same workgroup, and in Vista that network discovery and file sharing are
enabled in the network and sharing center. You mentioned that they see each
other, so I'm assuming it's a file sharing issue? In XP the account sharing
must be passworded, and in Vista you need to enable Network Discovery,
Public File Sharing, and, if the files are housed outside of the Public
folders, File Sharing as well in the Network and Sharing Center. Shares must
be designated in both systems from the folder properties as well.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"r.bartlett" wrote in message
...
As I said in my post, I have been through sharing and discovery, all to no
avail....

Cheers

Richard


"Rick Rogers" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Have you enabled Network Discovery in the Network and Sharing Center yet?

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP



..Been through the sharing etc.

Cheers

Richard







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Old March 24th 08, 05:51 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
r.bartlett
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Default the old xp network and vista laptop issue

Rick,

many thanks for the assistance..

As it can been seen from my original I do mention ' been through the sharing
etc' and it's only the laptops which can 'see' eachother..

The problem lies between Vista and XP on the 'OFFICE' network (or workgroup
if you prefer...)



Richard

================================================== ======
Hi guy's

My 2 new vista laptops won't see either the network set up at home or my
office (both as 'OFFICE') or vice versa. I downloaded the LLTD and it's made
not one jot of difference..Been through the sharing etc.

*The 2 lappys see eachother BTW*

I downloaded network magic demo on one laptop and the main PC at home and
appears the network is correct as they both see eachother . (it even sees
the one laptop which hasn't got NM on it)

I must say I'm kinda disappointed that Vista and XP are not properly
configured to automatically 'see' eachother and have to resort to a 3rd
party to do so?

================================================== ========
"Rick Rogers" wrote in message
...
Actually, no you didn't say that. You only mentioned some third party tool
you tried, something I've never found necessary but that can also confuse
matters further. All that should be required is that both systems are on
the same workgroup, and in Vista that network discovery and file sharing
are enabled in the network and sharing center. You mentioned that they see
each other, so I'm assuming it's a file sharing issue? In XP the account
sharing must be passworded, and in Vista you need to enable Network
Discovery, Public File Sharing, and, if the files are housed outside of
the Public folders, File Sharing as well in the Network and Sharing
Center. Shares must be designated in both systems from the folder
properties as well.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"r.bartlett" wrote in message
...
As I said in my post, I have been through sharing and discovery, all to
no avail....

Cheers

Richard


"Rick Rogers" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Have you enabled Network Discovery in the Network and Sharing Center
yet?

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP



..Been through the sharing etc.

Cheers

Richard










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Old March 24th 08, 08:36 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
Rick Rogers
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Default the old xp network and vista laptop issue

Hi,

Is the office a workgroup or domain? Is it administered?

In Vista, type 'network and sharing center' into the search line and hit
enter to open the center. What are your settings here?

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"r.bartlett" wrote in message
...
Rick,

many thanks for the assistance..

As it can been seen from my original I do mention ' been through the
sharing etc' and it's only the laptops which can 'see' eachother..

The problem lies between Vista and XP on the 'OFFICE' network (or
workgroup if you prefer...)



Richard

================================================== ======
Hi guy's

My 2 new vista laptops won't see either the network set up at home or my
office (both as 'OFFICE') or vice versa. I downloaded the LLTD and it's
made
not one jot of difference..Been through the sharing etc.

*The 2 lappys see eachother BTW*

I downloaded network magic demo on one laptop and the main PC at home and
appears the network is correct as they both see eachother . (it even sees
the one laptop which hasn't got NM on it)

I must say I'm kinda disappointed that Vista and XP are not properly
configured to automatically 'see' eachother and have to resort to a 3rd
party to do so?

================================================== ========
"Rick Rogers" wrote in message
...
Actually, no you didn't say that. You only mentioned some third party
tool you tried, something I've never found necessary but that can also
confuse matters further. All that should be required is that both systems
are on the same workgroup, and in Vista that network discovery and file
sharing are enabled in the network and sharing center. You mentioned that
they see each other, so I'm assuming it's a file sharing issue? In XP the
account sharing must be passworded, and in Vista you need to enable
Network Discovery, Public File Sharing, and, if the files are housed
outside of the Public folders, File Sharing as well in the Network and
Sharing Center. Shares must be designated in both systems from the folder
properties as well.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"r.bartlett" wrote in message
...
As I said in my post, I have been through sharing and discovery, all to
no avail....

Cheers

Richard


"Rick Rogers" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Have you enabled Network Discovery in the Network and Sharing Center
yet?

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP


..Been through the sharing etc.

Cheers

Richard











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Old March 25th 08, 09:35 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
Mick Murphy
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Default the old xp network and vista laptop issue

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx

Have a read of the above link re Vista File and Printer Sharing.

Permissions/Share info is there as well.

If using Norton, McAfee, Trend Micro I.S., make sure file and printer
sharing is enabled in THEIR firewall.

1st thing to do is make sure that the Workgroup Name of ALL the computers is
the SAME.

In Vista Network and Sharing:

Network Discovery: ON (So it can see the other computers)

Network set to Private (Public is for hotspots, airports, etc)

File Sharing: ON

Public Folder Sharing: ON (Vista’s Public Folder is the same as XP’s Shared
Docs)

Password Protected: OFF (unless you want to set up identical usernames and
passwords on ALL computers in your Network) If you have it ON, you will be
asked for a username and password when you try to access a Vista computer
from an XP computer.

Also, run the XP’s Home Network File and Printer Sharing Wizard to include
Vista in your “New” Network, even if you had an XP Network set up prior to
adding a Vista computer to it.

--
Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia


"r.bartlett" wrote:

Hi guy's

My 2 new vista laptops won't see either the network set up at home or my
office (both as 'OFFICE') or vice versa. I downloaded the LLTD and it's made
not one jot of difference..Been through the sharing etc.

*The 2 lappys see eachother BTW*

I downloaded network magic demo on one laptop and the main PC at home and
appears the network is correct as they both see eachother . (it even sees
the one laptop which hasn't got NM on it)

I must say I'm kinda disappointed that Vista and XP are not properly
configured to automatically 'see' eachother and have to resort to a 3rd
party to do so?

That aside I have three options

1 Dump Vista (my current fav ;-)
2 Solve this problem
3 Buy NM for home/work

If anyone has any input I'd love to see if no/ 2 can be cracked!

Cheers

Richard



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Old March 25th 08, 03:24 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
r.bartlett
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Default the old xp network and vista laptop issue

"Also, run the XP's Home Network File and Printer Sharing Wizard to include
Vista in your "New" Network, even if you had an XP Network set up prior to
adding a Vista computer to it."

How do I add Vista to my network?

I have pictures ! ;-)

http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?i...sc00378dd2.jpg

http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?i...sc00377aq6.jpg

Cheers

Richard


 




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