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Ain't Beta Testing Fun?
Gigabyte 7VT600P-RZ, AMD XP3200, 2 Gigs of cheap memory, 2 WD 250 Gig
SATA drives in Raid O. Been running XP (on WD IDE drive) since it came out and finally have it where I want it. Now I'm bored! So, I played with Beta 2 for a while and just got it set up when Pre-RC1 came out. Didn't get too involved with that because RC1 was around the corner. Now: RC1! (All downloaded problem-free with Opera, average D/L time between 2 and 3 hours, and burned fast and faultlessly with Nero 7) Was very impressed with the fast install and setup--only about 20 minutes to a working desktop. The Windows Sidebar and the Aero/Glassy thingy are neat but I'll probably turn all the eye-candy off when the novelty wears off. Set power options to leave computer on all the time and turn off displays after 10 minutes. No luck--displays stay on all the time despite the fact that they turn off OK when booted into XP No suitable drivers (Catalyst Control Center) for my ATI X1600 so I can't switch one of my dual monitors to my LCD TV. OK, they'll come one day. Gee, Windows update says there are new drivers for my card released "yesterday". Here we go! Instant BSOD. Oh well, roll back and keep hoping. I keep setting Opera as my default browser but every link I click opens IE which, as we have read in this group, won't open half the pages I send it to. I can't be bothered to fix IE, I just want Vista to agree to allow Opera to be the default browser. I have about 33 gigs of music and video on a separate partition. Windows Explorer keeps choking and shutting down after browsing this partition for a minute or so. Windows Defender blocks startup programs and won't let me override its decisions. What good is an "Enable" button that's not enabled? I'm not particularly anti-Microsoft but I'd like to know which drone decided to allow Adobe Speed Launch and disallow, e.g: AVG and BOINC. Latest versions of AVG Free, BOINC, Motherboard Monitor 5, eMule, Limewire, DivX player, Forté Agent, Logitech iTouch, all seem to work OK after playing the "run as administrator" game. So, to my surprise, does an old favourite, T-Clock. Office 2007 Beta won't even install. I hope the "Technical Refresh" is free, too. It's not the $1.50 that bothers me--I just don't use credit cards and MS doesn't take PayPal. 'Til then I'll have to boot back into XP to do anything "Officey". I understand the reasoning behind UAC, but I still hate it. Haven't turned it off yet but it's damned frustrating not being able to just click on a program and have it open like you've been used to for years. Lots of good people and useful info in these groups. Just don't have time to read it all. Information overload! Thanks to you all! 'Nuff for now. -- Lee H. in beautiful Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada! This life is a test. It is only a test. Had this been an actual life, you would have received further instructions as to what to do and where to go. |
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Ain't Beta Testing Fun?
If Office 2007 doesn't like your RC1 - give Suns StarOffice free Brother
"OpenOffice" a try, its a full featured and gratis OfficeSuite like Microsoft Office Professional : latest Versions for Mac,Windows and Linux : www.openoffice.org ( reads and writes doc,rtf,xls,ppt and all other filetypes ) (free of course) SBJ "Lee H." schrieb im Newsbeitrag ... Gigabyte 7VT600P-RZ, AMD XP3200, 2 Gigs of cheap memory, 2 WD 250 Gig SATA drives in Raid O. Been running XP (on WD IDE drive) since it came out and finally have it where I want it. Now I'm bored! So, I played with Beta 2 for a while and just got it set up when Pre-RC1 came out. Didn't get too involved with that because RC1 was around the corner. Now: RC1! (All downloaded problem-free with Opera, average D/L time between 2 and 3 hours, and burned fast and faultlessly with Nero 7) Was very impressed with the fast install and setup--only about 20 minutes to a working desktop. The Windows Sidebar and the Aero/Glassy thingy are neat but I'll probably turn all the eye-candy off when the novelty wears off. Set power options to leave computer on all the time and turn off displays after 10 minutes. No luck--displays stay on all the time despite the fact that they turn off OK when booted into XP No suitable drivers (Catalyst Control Center) for my ATI X1600 so I can't switch one of my dual monitors to my LCD TV. OK, they'll come one day. Gee, Windows update says there are new drivers for my card released "yesterday". Here we go! Instant BSOD. Oh well, roll back and keep hoping. I keep setting Opera as my default browser but every link I click opens IE which, as we have read in this group, won't open half the pages I send it to. I can't be bothered to fix IE, I just want Vista to agree to allow Opera to be the default browser. I have about 33 gigs of music and video on a separate partition. Windows Explorer keeps choking and shutting down after browsing this partition for a minute or so. Windows Defender blocks startup programs and won't let me override its decisions. What good is an "Enable" button that's not enabled? I'm not particularly anti-Microsoft but I'd like to know which drone decided to allow Adobe Speed Launch and disallow, e.g: AVG and BOINC. Latest versions of AVG Free, BOINC, Motherboard Monitor 5, eMule, Limewire, DivX player, Forté Agent, Logitech iTouch, all seem to work OK after playing the "run as administrator" game. So, to my surprise, does an old favourite, T-Clock. Office 2007 Beta won't even install. I hope the "Technical Refresh" is free, too. It's not the $1.50 that bothers me--I just don't use credit cards and MS doesn't take PayPal. 'Til then I'll have to boot back into XP to do anything "Officey". I understand the reasoning behind UAC, but I still hate it. Haven't turned it off yet but it's damned frustrating not being able to just click on a program and have it open like you've been used to for years. Lots of good people and useful info in these groups. Just don't have time to read it all. Information overload! Thanks to you all! 'Nuff for now. -- Lee H. in beautiful Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada! This life is a test. It is only a test. Had this been an actual life, you would have received further instructions as to what to do and where to go. |
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Ain't Beta Testing Fun?
Also on the fly, particularly for students and people on a box that might
not gasp gasp have the cash cow that Mr. Sinofsky has been dumbing down for years because of the focus groups and surveys that have long told MSFT that about 97% use 3% of the features in Word for example, you can use google's new Word Processor and spread sheets that store your docs on the web (free)--that means no money and money is what drives MSFT to do everything including make CPPs free. http://www.writely.com/ http://www.writely.com/favicon.ico gives you a pencil icon which should make your year. https://www.google.com/accounts/Serv...%2Fccc%3Fn ew Right now, BTW the CPP website for Vista has blatantly wrong information and MSFT has been notified in spades and not lifted a finger to correct it. 1) It says that RC1 needs a Tech Beta 2 Refresh to run Office. That's just plain wrong. The comical question is which of the non-intuitively named Beta Vista teams or Office teams posted this on the MSFT Web site? 2) On the Get Vista RC1 site for about two weeks now, they have had a link to the Beta 2 Technical refresh but it's not a valid link. It will take you to http://office.microsoft.com ( a very useful site particularly if you search your topic under the app's hyperlink on the left) but *it does not have Beta 2 Tech Refresh on it. One can only wonder what went on in the head of whomever posted this on the Vista site since you would assume all the ad agency boys and girls from Wagner Edstrom and McCann Ericson (since marketing is the main gross national product out of the Redmond campus) would be watching this like a hawk--also that Mich Mathews, Sr. VP for Central Marketing, would but apparently that's not the case. http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/e...s/default.mspx CH "Sascha Benjamin Jazbec" wrote in message ... If Office 2007 doesn't like your RC1 - give Suns StarOffice free Brother "OpenOffice" a try, its a full featured and gratis OfficeSuite like Microsoft Office Professional : latest Versions for Mac,Windows and Linux : www.openoffice.org ( reads and writes doc,rtf,xls,ppt and all other filetypes ) (free of course) SBJ "Lee H." schrieb im Newsbeitrag ... Gigabyte 7VT600P-RZ, AMD XP3200, 2 Gigs of cheap memory, 2 WD 250 Gig SATA drives in Raid O. Been running XP (on WD IDE drive) since it came out and finally have it where I want it. Now I'm bored! So, I played with Beta 2 for a while and just got it set up when Pre-RC1 came out. Didn't get too involved with that because RC1 was around the corner. Now: RC1! (All downloaded problem-free with Opera, average D/L time between 2 and 3 hours, and burned fast and faultlessly with Nero 7) Was very impressed with the fast install and setup--only about 20 minutes to a working desktop. The Windows Sidebar and the Aero/Glassy thingy are neat but I'll probably turn all the eye-candy off when the novelty wears off. Set power options to leave computer on all the time and turn off displays after 10 minutes. No luck--displays stay on all the time despite the fact that they turn off OK when booted into XP No suitable drivers (Catalyst Control Center) for my ATI X1600 so I can't switch one of my dual monitors to my LCD TV. OK, they'll come one day. Gee, Windows update says there are new drivers for my card released "yesterday". Here we go! Instant BSOD. Oh well, roll back and keep hoping. I keep setting Opera as my default browser but every link I click opens IE which, as we have read in this group, won't open half the pages I send it to. I can't be bothered to fix IE, I just want Vista to agree to allow Opera to be the default browser. I have about 33 gigs of music and video on a separate partition. Windows Explorer keeps choking and shutting down after browsing this partition for a minute or so. Windows Defender blocks startup programs and won't let me override its decisions. What good is an "Enable" button that's not enabled? I'm not particularly anti-Microsoft but I'd like to know which drone decided to allow Adobe Speed Launch and disallow, e.g: AVG and BOINC. Latest versions of AVG Free, BOINC, Motherboard Monitor 5, eMule, Limewire, DivX player, Forté Agent, Logitech iTouch, all seem to work OK after playing the "run as administrator" game. So, to my surprise, does an old favourite, T-Clock. Office 2007 Beta won't even install. I hope the "Technical Refresh" is free, too. It's not the $1.50 that bothers me--I just don't use credit cards and MS doesn't take PayPal. 'Til then I'll have to boot back into XP to do anything "Officey". I understand the reasoning behind UAC, but I still hate it. Haven't turned it off yet but it's damned frustrating not being able to just click on a program and have it open like you've been used to for years. Lots of good people and useful info in these groups. Just don't have time to read it all. Information overload! Thanks to you all! 'Nuff for now. -- Lee H. in beautiful Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada! This life is a test. It is only a test. Had this been an actual life, you would have received further instructions as to what to do and where to go. |
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Ain't Beta Testing Fun?
Sure is fun
Add (1) applications run fine in XP don't run in Vista and (2) Internet explorer dies when you try to download the "problem reporting tool. Look on the bright side. ( I can't think of one, tey!!) |
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Ain't Beta Testing Fun?
Yes isn't it great Lee??
God I must get a life..... Find it, break it, report it, curse it, bash it New build woooooooot The circle starts again "Lee H." wrote in message ... Gigabyte 7VT600P-RZ, AMD XP3200, 2 Gigs of cheap memory, 2 WD 250 Gig SATA drives in Raid O. Been running XP (on WD IDE drive) since it came out and finally have it where I want it. Now I'm bored! So, I played with Beta 2 for a while and just got it set up when Pre-RC1 came out. Didn't get too involved with that because RC1 was around the corner. Now: RC1! (All downloaded problem-free with Opera, average D/L time between 2 and 3 hours, and burned fast and faultlessly with Nero 7) Was very impressed with the fast install and setup--only about 20 minutes to a working desktop. The Windows Sidebar and the Aero/Glassy thingy are neat but I'll probably turn all the eye-candy off when the novelty wears off. Set power options to leave computer on all the time and turn off displays after 10 minutes. No luck--displays stay on all the time despite the fact that they turn off OK when booted into XP No suitable drivers (Catalyst Control Center) for my ATI X1600 so I can't switch one of my dual monitors to my LCD TV. OK, they'll come one day. Gee, Windows update says there are new drivers for my card released "yesterday". Here we go! Instant BSOD. Oh well, roll back and keep hoping. I keep setting Opera as my default browser but every link I click opens IE which, as we have read in this group, won't open half the pages I send it to. I can't be bothered to fix IE, I just want Vista to agree to allow Opera to be the default browser. I have about 33 gigs of music and video on a separate partition. Windows Explorer keeps choking and shutting down after browsing this partition for a minute or so. Windows Defender blocks startup programs and won't let me override its decisions. What good is an "Enable" button that's not enabled? I'm not particularly anti-Microsoft but I'd like to know which drone decided to allow Adobe Speed Launch and disallow, e.g: AVG and BOINC. Latest versions of AVG Free, BOINC, Motherboard Monitor 5, eMule, Limewire, DivX player, Forté Agent, Logitech iTouch, all seem to work OK after playing the "run as administrator" game. So, to my surprise, does an old favourite, T-Clock. Office 2007 Beta won't even install. I hope the "Technical Refresh" is free, too. It's not the $1.50 that bothers me--I just don't use credit cards and MS doesn't take PayPal. 'Til then I'll have to boot back into XP to do anything "Officey". I understand the reasoning behind UAC, but I still hate it. Haven't turned it off yet but it's damned frustrating not being able to just click on a program and have it open like you've been used to for years. Lots of good people and useful info in these groups. Just don't have time to read it all. Information overload! Thanks to you all! 'Nuff for now. -- Lee H. in beautiful Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada! This life is a test. It is only a test. Had this been an actual life, you would have received further instructions as to what to do and where to go. |
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Ain't Beta Testing Fun?
For Opera: Go into Control Panel Default Programs.
You should be able to set all your link defaults to Opera. I actually had to go into Default Programs and do it for IE. On links included in email, Firefox would always open up. Fixed that easily enough in default Programs. -Michael "Lee H." wrote in message ... Gigabyte 7VT600P-RZ, AMD XP3200, 2 Gigs of cheap memory, 2 WD 250 Gig SATA drives in Raid O. Been running XP (on WD IDE drive) since it came out and finally have it where I want it. Now I'm bored! So, I played with Beta 2 for a while and just got it set up when Pre-RC1 came out. Didn't get too involved with that because RC1 was around the corner. Now: RC1! (All downloaded problem-free with Opera, average D/L time between 2 and 3 hours, and burned fast and faultlessly with Nero 7) Was very impressed with the fast install and setup--only about 20 minutes to a working desktop. The Windows Sidebar and the Aero/Glassy thingy are neat but I'll probably turn all the eye-candy off when the novelty wears off. Set power options to leave computer on all the time and turn off displays after 10 minutes. No luck--displays stay on all the time despite the fact that they turn off OK when booted into XP No suitable drivers (Catalyst Control Center) for my ATI X1600 so I can't switch one of my dual monitors to my LCD TV. OK, they'll come one day. Gee, Windows update says there are new drivers for my card released "yesterday". Here we go! Instant BSOD. Oh well, roll back and keep hoping. I keep setting Opera as my default browser but every link I click opens IE which, as we have read in this group, won't open half the pages I send it to. I can't be bothered to fix IE, I just want Vista to agree to allow Opera to be the default browser. I have about 33 gigs of music and video on a separate partition. Windows Explorer keeps choking and shutting down after browsing this partition for a minute or so. Windows Defender blocks startup programs and won't let me override its decisions. What good is an "Enable" button that's not enabled? I'm not particularly anti-Microsoft but I'd like to know which drone decided to allow Adobe Speed Launch and disallow, e.g: AVG and BOINC. Latest versions of AVG Free, BOINC, Motherboard Monitor 5, eMule, Limewire, DivX player, Forté Agent, Logitech iTouch, all seem to work OK after playing the "run as administrator" game. So, to my surprise, does an old favourite, T-Clock. Office 2007 Beta won't even install. I hope the "Technical Refresh" is free, too. It's not the $1.50 that bothers me--I just don't use credit cards and MS doesn't take PayPal. 'Til then I'll have to boot back into XP to do anything "Officey". I understand the reasoning behind UAC, but I still hate it. Haven't turned it off yet but it's damned frustrating not being able to just click on a program and have it open like you've been used to for years. Lots of good people and useful info in these groups. Just don't have time to read it all. Information overload! Thanks to you all! 'Nuff for now. -- Lee H. in beautiful Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada! This life is a test. It is only a test. Had this been an actual life, you would have received further instructions as to what to do and where to go. |
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Ain't Beta Testing Fun?
Hmmm... Interesting!
I hope Microsoft Marketing and PR are reading this. I too believe that a dodgy CTP or dodoy beta does not a great deal and may possibly have the reverse effect. Maybe instead of creating interest it stuntifies it? On the other hand, EGD CTP must be one of the best CTPs on the go. It too is not 100% (image maps and pattern fills are zapped after closing the program) but (in my opinion) the good far outweighs the bad. The trouble starts when the bad outweighs the good especially when one knows one may use another program and do the job in 20 minutes but the CTP/beta makes it a 4 hour chore? Equally, no matter how bad the CTP/betas appear to be quite a few people appear to be knowledgeable experts in NGs with a desire to see things through, so maybe community works after all? |
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Ain't Beta Testing Fun?
Dell Pentium III, 1 Ghz. 512 Mb RAM, 32 Mb video memory. Betas of Office
2007 & OneNote 2007 installed and run o.k. Still have not been able to set up LAN but have a connection to the internet. "Lee H." wrote in message ... Gigabyte 7VT600P-RZ, AMD XP3200, 2 Gigs of cheap memory, 2 WD 250 Gig SATA drives in Raid O. Been running XP (on WD IDE drive) since it came out and finally have it where I want it. Now I'm bored! So, I played with Beta 2 for a while and just got it set up when Pre-RC1 came out. Didn't get too involved with that because RC1 was around the corner. Now: RC1! (All downloaded problem-free with Opera, average D/L time between 2 and 3 hours, and burned fast and faultlessly with Nero 7) Was very impressed with the fast install and setup--only about 20 minutes to a working desktop. The Windows Sidebar and the Aero/Glassy thingy are neat but I'll probably turn all the eye-candy off when the novelty wears off. Set power options to leave computer on all the time and turn off displays after 10 minutes. No luck--displays stay on all the time despite the fact that they turn off OK when booted into XP No suitable drivers (Catalyst Control Center) for my ATI X1600 so I can't switch one of my dual monitors to my LCD TV. OK, they'll come one day. Gee, Windows update says there are new drivers for my card released "yesterday". Here we go! Instant BSOD. Oh well, roll back and keep hoping. I keep setting Opera as my default browser but every link I click opens IE which, as we have read in this group, won't open half the pages I send it to. I can't be bothered to fix IE, I just want Vista to agree to allow Opera to be the default browser. I have about 33 gigs of music and video on a separate partition. Windows Explorer keeps choking and shutting down after browsing this partition for a minute or so. Windows Defender blocks startup programs and won't let me override its decisions. What good is an "Enable" button that's not enabled? I'm not particularly anti-Microsoft but I'd like to know which drone decided to allow Adobe Speed Launch and disallow, e.g: AVG and BOINC. Latest versions of AVG Free, BOINC, Motherboard Monitor 5, eMule, Limewire, DivX player, Forté Agent, Logitech iTouch, all seem to work OK after playing the "run as administrator" game. So, to my surprise, does an old favourite, T-Clock. Office 2007 Beta won't even install. I hope the "Technical Refresh" is free, too. It's not the $1.50 that bothers me--I just don't use credit cards and MS doesn't take PayPal. 'Til then I'll have to boot back into XP to do anything "Officey". I understand the reasoning behind UAC, but I still hate it. Haven't turned it off yet but it's damned frustrating not being able to just click on a program and have it open like you've been used to for years. Lots of good people and useful info in these groups. Just don't have time to read it all. Information overload! Thanks to you all! 'Nuff for now. -- Lee H. in beautiful Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada! This life is a test. It is only a test. Had this been an actual life, you would have received further instructions as to what to do and where to go. |