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Copy an ide hard disk
I have a desktop pc that is using sata hard disks. I would like to copy an
ide hard disk to a larger one using the desktop pc. Is there any idea to accomplish it? Thanks, Scott |
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Copy an ide hard disk
Scott wrote:
I have a desktop pc that is using sata hard disks. I would like to copy an ide hard disk to a larger one using the desktop pc. Is there any idea to accomplish it? An imaging program will do it. I use Acronis True Image but there are others. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ |
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Copy an ide hard disk
Hi, Scott.
Depending on the many facts you didn't tell us, it can be as simple as using Windows Explorer's Copy command - or as complex as a third-party application, as Malke said. If this is your only disk on your only PC, then follow her instructions. If you have multiple drives and are dual-booting several Windows versions, post back with more details and we'll try to help. RC -- R. C. White, CPA San Marcos, TX Microsoft Windows MVP Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8064.0206) in Win7 Ultimate x64 RC 7100 "Scott" wrote in message ... I have a desktop pc that is using sata hard disks. I would like to copy an ide hard disk to a larger one using the desktop pc. Is there any idea to accomplish it? Thanks, Scott |
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Copy an ide hard disk
If you open the case there may be a spare IDE connector, or you could
temporarily disconnect any IDE optical drives. Otherwise, you need an external USB to IDE adaptor or a USB/IDE external enclosure if you want repeat access to the drive. On 27/06/2009 12:32, Scott wrote: I have a desktop pc that is using sata hard disks. I would like to copy an ide hard disk to a larger one using the desktop pc. Is there any idea to accomplish it? Thanks, Scott |
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Copy an ide hard disk
"Dominic Payer" 在郵件
ä¸*撰寫... If you open the case there may be a spare IDE connector, or you could temporarily disconnect any IDE optical drives. Otherwise, you need an external USB to IDE adaptor or a USB/IDE external enclosure if you want repeat access to the drive. On 27/06/2009 12:32, Scott wrote: I have a desktop pc that is using sata hard disks. I would like to copy an ide hard disk to a larger one using the desktop pc. Is there any idea to accomplish it? Thanks, Scott Norton Ghost does not support removable media so usb/ide is now workable solution. Scott |
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Copy an ide hard disk
"Malke" 在郵件
ä¸*撰寫... Scott wrote: I have a desktop pc that is using sata hard disks. I would like to copy an ide hard disk to a larger one using the desktop pc. Is there any idea to accomplish it? An imaging program will do it. I use Acronis True Image but there are others. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ I have Norton Ghost but it does not support removable media. How can I connect the old and new drives with the pc? Scott |
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Copy an ide hard disk
"R. C. White" 在郵件
ä¸*撰寫... Hi, Scott. Depending on the many facts you didn't tell us, it can be as simple as using Windows Explorer's Copy command - or as complex as a third-party application, as Malke said. If this is your only disk on your only PC, then follow her instructions. If you have multiple drives and are dual-booting several Windows versions, post back with more details and we'll try to help. RC -- R. C. White, CPA San Marcos, TX Microsoft Windows MVP Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8064.0206) in Win7 Ultimate x64 RC 7100 "Scott" wrote in message ... I have a desktop pc that is using sata hard disks. I would like to copy an ide hard disk to a larger one using the desktop pc. Is there any idea to accomplish it? Thanks, Scott Probably, I did not describe the issue clearly. My computer is working on Vista Premium and support 2 sata drives. Now I need to copy an old ide hard disk to a larger one for my laptop pc. I cannot do it on my laptop and think to use my desktop pc. However, I do not have ide drive connection on my desktop pc and insufficient drives to accomplish the task. Any other idea? Scott |
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Scott wrote:
Probably, I did not describe the issue clearly. My computer is working on Vista Premium and support 2 sata drives. Now I need to copy an old ide hard disk to a larger one for my laptop pc. I cannot do it on my laptop and think to use my desktop pc. However, I do not have ide drive connection on my desktop pc and insufficient drives to accomplish the task. Any other idea? Suggestions: 1. Put both the IDE drives into USB external drive cases; 2. or attach internally to your computer if you have the connections on your motherboard; 3. or use SATA-to-IDE adapter(s) to the motherboard; 4. or use a specialized drive adapter(s) like this one: http://www.newertech.com/products/usb2_adapt.php If you are using such an old version of Norton Ghost that it won't support USB, replace it with a modern imaging program that does. I use the enterprise version of Acronis True Image Echo because I'm a computer tech, but you can buy the home version of TI for as little as $35. Here are a few examples: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...nis+true+image You need the tools to accomplish the job. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ |
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Copy an ide hard disk
Scott wrote: Probably, I did not describe the issue clearly. My computer is working on Vista Premium and support 2 sata drives. Now I need to copy an old ide hard disk to a larger one for my laptop pc. I cannot do it on my laptop and think to use my desktop pc. However, I do not have ide drive connection on my desktop pc and insufficient drives to accomplish the task. Any other idea? "Malke" wrote in message ... Suggestions: 1. Put both the IDE drives into USB external drive cases; 2. or attach internally to your computer if you have the connections on your motherboard; 3. or use SATA-to-IDE adapter(s) to the motherboard; 4. or use a specialized drive adapter(s) like this one: http://www.newertech.com/products/usb2_adapt.php If you are using such an old version of Norton Ghost that it won't support USB, replace it with a modern imaging program that does. I use the enterprise version of Acronis True Image Echo because I'm a computer tech, but you can buy the home version of TI for as little as $35. Here are a few examples: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...nis+true+image You need the tools to accomplish the job. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ Scott... 1. Obviously the "source" HDD you're dealing with - the one you label "an old IDE hard drive" - is a 3 1/2" (desktop-type) HDD, right? Because if it wasn't, i.e., if it was another 2 1/2" laptop/notebook-type HDD, then there would be no need to utilize your desktop to realize your objective, right? In the latter case you would simply use a USB-type external HDD enclosure designed for 2 1/2" drives to install the new, larger 2 1/2" drive, connect such to your laptop, and copy (clone or image) the contents of the present drive to the new one. 2. As Malke indicates, you will obviously also need a program to copy the complete contents of that 3 1/2" HDD to the new 2 1/2" HDD (assuming for one reason or another you're dissatisfied with your Norton Ghost program). While he mentions a disk-imaging type of program I would suggest you also consider a disk-cloning program, specifically the Casper 5 program. 3. While I won't go into any details now as to why we prefer that program as a comprehensive backup program, I will provide further details if you're at all interested. There is a trial version of the Casper 5 program available at... http://www.fssdev.com It's worth a try so I would encourage you to do so. But I have to add that the 30-day trial version is somewhat "crippled" in that while it will clone the entire contents of your old HDD to the new HDD, it will create the same size partition(s) on the new ("destination") HDD equal to the one(s) on your old ("source") HDD. You didn't indicate the disk size of the drives in question, but as an example...if your source HDD was single-partitioned, say 80 GB, and the destination HDD had a *total* disk-capacity of say, 250 GB, then the program would establish only a partition of 80 GB on the destination drive. The remaining disk-space would be "unallocated" disk space -obviously disk-space that you could later partition/format or merge with the created partition. Naturally the licensed version does not have this restriction. In any event, the Casper 5 disk-cloning program (it does not have disk-imaging capability) is a superior product (in my view) for the great majority of PC users in maintaining a comprehensive backup program. Its usefulness is particularly apparent when used with a high degree of frequency so as to result in a user maintaining an up-to-date backup system. 4. Assuming the above suggestions are not, for one reason or another, practical in your case and you have determined that it's necessary that you utilize your new desktop PC to effect your objective... You say "I do not have ide drive connection on my desktop pc and insufficient drives to accomplish the task." Are you indicating that your desktop's motherboard does not contain an IDE channel? While more & more of the new motherboards now contain only a single IDE channel it's still rather unusual that the motherboard will contain *no* IDE channels. Is that really the case in your situation, i.e., there's not a single IDE channel on your motherboard that you can utilize? Obviously if there *was* an IDE channel on your motherboard you could simply connect the IDE (PATA) HDD to that channel and use the disk-cloning or disk-imaging program to effect the copying of the contents of that HDD to the 2 1/2" HDD installed in a USB enclosure connected to your desktop PC. 5. While I'm not familiar with the *specific* model of the drive adapter device Malke suggests, I am familiar with this type of device in general. Frankly our experience has been quite negative after using a fair number of different makes & models of these type of devices. To the point where we rarely recommend them. We have encountered far too many instances where these devices simply didn't work or worked erratically or the result was too often corrupted/files on the destination drive. And we even encountered some instances where it adversely affected the source HDD. On the other hand we have seen reports from users quite satisfied with these devices. I would be interested to learn whether Malke has personally used this specific model in a fair number of instances. Anna |
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Copy an ide hard disk
Anna wrote:
(snippage) 5. While I'm not familiar with the *specific* model of the drive adapter device Malke suggests, I am familiar with this type of device in general. Frankly our experience has been quite negative after using a fair number of different makes & models of these type of devices. To the point where we rarely recommend them. We have encountered far too many instances where these devices simply didn't work or worked erratically or the result was too often corrupted/files on the destination drive. And we even encountered some instances where it adversely affected the source HDD. On the other hand we have seen reports from users quite satisfied with these devices. I would be interested to learn whether Malke has personally used this specific model in a fair number of instances. Yes. I've used an older model of the USB drive adapter from Newertech for years. I've never had a problem with it. I mostly use it for IDE and laptop drives. I recently bought this similar item for SATA drives: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817153071 and I've been quite happy with it. I also have a bunch of external drive enclosures and can quickly stick a drive in there if need be. For the most part I use the adapters and enclosures for data recovery from clients' hard drives and drives in external enclosures to store my own images. I also have enough computers so that if I wanted to work on two drives like the OP does I probably would just attach them internally to one of the testbed boxen and boot with the Acronis CD to do the cloning that way. I prefer to image or clone a drive when it is connected to the motherboard, either with an add-in PCI card or directly to the motherboard. However, if the OP doesn't have extra computers, then he is going to need to either buy some tools/software or take the drives to a tech like me to have the job done. If it's going to be a one-time job, he'd be better off just taking it to a tech - who will have all the necessary tools and machines. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ |
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