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Tim Walters[_2_] October 14th 09 04:38 PM

Is Acronis Startup Recovery compatible with Vista Startup Repair?
 
My laptop is an HP Pavilion Entertainment PC and my OS is Vista Home Premium
Version 6.0 Build 6000. I haven't been able to install SP1.

I've done a mirror image of Drive C on an external HD by Acronis. Acronis
offers the option of accessing Startup Recovery (through F11) if the OS
fails to boot. Is there any danger of a conflict between this and Vista's
own startup repair system?

Second question: F8 brings up a choice of options, including a system
repair. This accesses a new menu of options, one of which is a restore from
an external source. Presumably this means a mirror image. Will ANY mirror
image work with this?

Thanks for your help.



David B.[_3_] October 14th 09 05:42 PM

Is Acronis Startup Recovery compatible with Vista Startup Repair?
 
This would be a question for Acronis or HP, but I suspect there would indeed
be a problem as HP also uses F11 to invoke their OEM recovery option to boot
from the OEM recovery partition, but I'm only guessing.

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"Tim Walters" wrote in message
...
My laptop is an HP Pavilion Entertainment PC and my OS is Vista Home
Premium Version 6.0 Build 6000. I haven't been able to install SP1.

I've done a mirror image of Drive C on an external HD by Acronis. Acronis
offers the option of accessing Startup Recovery (through F11) if the OS
fails to boot. Is there any danger of a conflict between this and Vista's
own startup repair system?

Second question: F8 brings up a choice of options, including a system
repair. This accesses a new menu of options, one of which is a restore
from an external source. Presumably this means a mirror image. Will ANY
mirror image work with this?

Thanks for your help.




David B.[_3_] October 14th 09 05:42 PM

Is Acronis Startup Recovery compatible with Vista Startup Repair?
 

This would be a question for Acronis or HP, but I suspect there would indeed
be a problem as HP also uses F11 to invoke their OEM recovery option to boot
from the OEM recovery partition, but I'm only guessing.

--


--
"Tim Walters" wrote in message
...
My laptop is an HP Pavilion Entertainment PC and my OS is Vista Home
Premium Version 6.0 Build 6000. I haven't been able to install SP1.

I've done a mirror image of Drive C on an external HD by Acronis. Acronis
offers the option of accessing Startup Recovery (through F11) if the OS
fails to boot. Is there any danger of a conflict between this and Vista's
own startup repair system?

Second question: F8 brings up a choice of options, including a system
repair. This accesses a new menu of options, one of which is a restore
from an external source. Presumably this means a mirror image. Will ANY
mirror image work with this?

Thanks for your help.




Richard Urban October 14th 09 08:38 PM

Is Acronis Startup Recovery compatible with Vista Startup Repair?
 
"Tim Walters" wrote in message
...
My laptop is an HP Pavilion Entertainment PC and my OS is Vista Home
Premium Version 6.0 Build 6000. I haven't been able to install SP1.

I've done a mirror image of Drive C on an external HD by Acronis. Acronis
offers the option of accessing Startup Recovery (through F11) if the OS
fails to boot. Is there any danger of a conflict between this and Vista's
own startup repair system?

Second question: F8 brings up a choice of options, including a system
repair. This accesses a new menu of options, one of which is a restore
from an external source. Presumably this means a mirror image. Will ANY
mirror image work with this?

Thanks for your help.





On HP computers I traditionally delete the HP recovery partition - after I
create a TrueImage image. I then expand drive C: to utilize the free space.
After this is done I install Acronis Recovery Manager, in lieu of HP's
method.

The image is created "after" I have cleansed the system of all the crap that
HP has installed. The computer is then lean and mean and ready to be imaged
as it should have been in the first place.

--

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience & Security


Richard Urban October 14th 09 08:38 PM

Is Acronis Startup Recovery compatible with Vista Startup Repair?
 
"Tim Walters" wrote in message
...
My laptop is an HP Pavilion Entertainment PC and my OS is Vista Home
Premium Version 6.0 Build 6000. I haven't been able to install SP1.

I've done a mirror image of Drive C on an external HD by Acronis. Acronis
offers the option of accessing Startup Recovery (through F11) if the OS
fails to boot. Is there any danger of a conflict between this and Vista's
own startup repair system?

Second question: F8 brings up a choice of options, including a system
repair. This accesses a new menu of options, one of which is a restore
from an external source. Presumably this means a mirror image. Will ANY
mirror image work with this?

Thanks for your help.





On HP computers I traditionally delete the HP recovery partition - after I
create a TrueImage image. I then expand drive C: to utilize the free space.
After this is done I install Acronis Recovery Manager, in lieu of HP's
method.

The image is created "after" I have cleansed the system of all the crap that
HP has installed. The computer is then lean and mean and ready to be imaged
as it should have been in the first place.

--

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience & Security


Tim Walters[_2_] October 14th 09 08:59 PM

Is Acronis Startup Recovery compatible with Vista Startup Repair?
 

"Richard Urban" wrote in message
...
"Tim Walters" wrote in message
...
My laptop is an HP Pavilion Entertainment PC and my OS is Vista Home
Premium Version 6.0 Build 6000. I haven't been able to install SP1.

I've done a mirror image of Drive C on an external HD by Acronis. Acronis
offers the option of accessing Startup Recovery (through F11) if the OS
fails to boot. Is there any danger of a conflict between this and Vista's
own startup repair system?

Second question: F8 brings up a choice of options, including a system
repair. This accesses a new menu of options, one of which is a restore
from an external source. Presumably this means a mirror image. Will ANY
mirror image work with this?

Thanks for your help.





On HP computers I traditionally delete the HP recovery partition - after I
create a TrueImage image. I then expand drive C: to utilize the free
space. After this is done I install Acronis Recovery Manager, in lieu of
HP's method.

The image is created "after" I have cleansed the system of all the crap
that HP has installed. The computer is then lean and mean and ready to be
imaged as it should have been in the first place.



This sounds very interesting but I'm not 100% sure I follow you. Is the
order of the steps:

1. Clear out the crap;
2. Create an initial TrueImage image;
3. Delete the recovery partition;
4. Expand Drive C: to utilize the free space;
5. Reinstall Acronis Recovery Manager;
6. Make another image?

Assuming I've got this right, what exactly is the crap HP has put in?




Tim Walters[_2_] October 14th 09 08:59 PM

Is Acronis Startup Recovery compatible with Vista Startup Repair?
 

"Richard Urban" wrote in message
...
"Tim Walters" wrote in message
...
My laptop is an HP Pavilion Entertainment PC and my OS is Vista Home
Premium Version 6.0 Build 6000. I haven't been able to install SP1.

I've done a mirror image of Drive C on an external HD by Acronis. Acronis
offers the option of accessing Startup Recovery (through F11) if the OS
fails to boot. Is there any danger of a conflict between this and Vista's
own startup repair system?

Second question: F8 brings up a choice of options, including a system
repair. This accesses a new menu of options, one of which is a restore
from an external source. Presumably this means a mirror image. Will ANY
mirror image work with this?

Thanks for your help.





On HP computers I traditionally delete the HP recovery partition - after I
create a TrueImage image. I then expand drive C: to utilize the free
space. After this is done I install Acronis Recovery Manager, in lieu of
HP's method.

The image is created "after" I have cleansed the system of all the crap
that HP has installed. The computer is then lean and mean and ready to be
imaged as it should have been in the first place.



This sounds very interesting but I'm not 100% sure I follow you. Is the
order of the steps:

1. Clear out the crap;
2. Create an initial TrueImage image;
3. Delete the recovery partition;
4. Expand Drive C: to utilize the free space;
5. Reinstall Acronis Recovery Manager;
6. Make another image?

Assuming I've got this right, what exactly is the crap HP has put in?




Richard Urban October 15th 09 12:10 AM

Is Acronis Startup Recovery compatible with Vista Startup Repair?
 
"Tim Walters" wrote in message
...

"Richard Urban" wrote in message
...
"Tim Walters" wrote in message
...
My laptop is an HP Pavilion Entertainment PC and my OS is Vista Home
Premium Version 6.0 Build 6000. I haven't been able to install SP1.

I've done a mirror image of Drive C on an external HD by Acronis.
Acronis offers the option of accessing Startup Recovery (through F11) if
the OS fails to boot. Is there any danger of a conflict between this and
Vista's own startup repair system?

Second question: F8 brings up a choice of options, including a system
repair. This accesses a new menu of options, one of which is a restore
from an external source. Presumably this means a mirror image. Will ANY
mirror image work with this?

Thanks for your help.





On HP computers I traditionally delete the HP recovery partition - after
I create a TrueImage image. I then expand drive C: to utilize the free
space. After this is done I install Acronis Recovery Manager, in lieu of
HP's method.

The image is created "after" I have cleansed the system of all the crap
that HP has installed. The computer is then lean and mean and ready to be
imaged as it should have been in the first place.



This sounds very interesting but I'm not 100% sure I follow you. Is the
order of the steps:

1. Clear out the crap;
2. Create an initial TrueImage image;
3. Delete the recovery partition;
4. Expand Drive C: to utilize the free space;
5. Reinstall Acronis Recovery Manager;
6. Make another image?

Assuming I've got this right, what exactly is the crap HP has put in?






My steps in sequence a

1. Image the system drive of the HP computer onto an external hard drive.
This way you can go back to "out of box" condition if needed.

2. But since out of box condition is not needed, or wanted ever again,
delete the HP system restore partition.

3. Then expand the C: partition, using the freed up and now unallocated
space from having deleted partition D:

4. Remove all of the "extra" HP supplied advertising and trial ware that
you have to pay for after 30-90 days. This includes Norton (or McAfee)
anything, Office 90 day trial, HP games, HP diagnostic programs and any
other HP utility or program that you don't want (most all of them). Most of
them are ad magnets.

5. Download and install all current operating system updates

6. Next is to install the Antivirus and Anti Malware programs of your
choice.

7. Then update Adobe Reader, Java and Adobe Flash - because a HP computer
is "always" delivered with these programs being at least 2 versions
antiquated and are therefore insecure.

8. Install TrueImage Home

9. Next is a partition defrag

10. Then create the Acronis "Secure Zone" and install the Acronis Recovery
Manager.

11. Then image the system, saving the image in the Acronis Secure Zone

NOTE: This image is as I/you want it to be, not as HP thinks it should
be. All programs have been installed/replaced and updated prior to the
image.

If you think you may ever have to rely upon HP for service it is best to
keep the image that you initially created of the hard drive as it was "out
of the box".

I have people bring me unopened computers they have just taken deliver of so
that I can provide this service for them. Yes, they pay for a retail version
of TrueImage Home and my time. The benefit is that they can return their
computer to the way it was when I returned it to them. They can also create
their own images prior to undertaking a major software install - incase
anything goes bad. If their computer becomes severely infected they can
return it to a pristine state within 10 minutes.

--

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience & Security


Richard Urban October 15th 09 12:10 AM

Is Acronis Startup Recovery compatible with Vista Startup Repair?
 

"Tim Walters" wrote in message
...

"Richard Urban" wrote in message
...
"Tim Walters" wrote in message
...
My laptop is an HP Pavilion Entertainment PC and my OS is Vista Home
Premium Version 6.0 Build 6000. I haven't been able to install SP1.

I've done a mirror image of Drive C on an external HD by Acronis.
Acronis offers the option of accessing Startup Recovery (through F11) if
the OS fails to boot. Is there any danger of a conflict between this and
Vista's own startup repair system?

Second question: F8 brings up a choice of options, including a system
repair. This accesses a new menu of options, one of which is a restore
from an external source. Presumably this means a mirror image. Will ANY
mirror image work with this?

Thanks for your help.





On HP computers I traditionally delete the HP recovery partition - after
I create a TrueImage image. I then expand drive C: to utilize the free
space. After this is done I install Acronis Recovery Manager, in lieu of
HP's method.

The image is created "after" I have cleansed the system of all the crap
that HP has installed. The computer is then lean and mean and ready to be
imaged as it should have been in the first place.



This sounds very interesting but I'm not 100% sure I follow you. Is the
order of the steps:

1. Clear out the crap;
2. Create an initial TrueImage image;
3. Delete the recovery partition;
4. Expand Drive C: to utilize the free space;
5. Reinstall Acronis Recovery Manager;
6. Make another image?

Assuming I've got this right, what exactly is the crap HP has put in?






My steps in sequence a

1. Image the system drive of the HP computer onto an external hard drive.
This way you can go back to "out of box" condition if needed.

2. But since out of box condition is not needed, or wanted ever again,
delete the HP system restore partition.

3. Then expand the C: partition, using the freed up and now unallocated
space from having deleted partition D:

4. Remove all of the "extra" HP supplied advertising and trial ware that
you have to pay for after 30-90 days. This includes Norton (or McAfee)
anything, Office 90 day trial, HP games, HP diagnostic programs and any
other HP utility or program that you don't want (most all of them). Most of
them are ad magnets.

5. Download and install all current operating system updates

6. Next is to install the Antivirus and Anti Malware programs of your
choice.

7. Then update Adobe Reader, Java and Adobe Flash - because a HP computer
is "always" delivered with these programs being at least 2 versions
antiquated and are therefore insecure.

8. Install TrueImage Home

9. Next is a partition defrag

10. Then create the Acronis "Secure Zone" and install the Acronis Recovery
Manager.

11. Then image the system, saving the image in the Acronis Secure Zone

NOTE: This image is as I/you want it to be, not as HP thinks it should
be. All programs have been installed/replaced and updated prior to the
image.

If you think you may ever have to rely upon HP for service it is best to
keep the image that you initially created of the hard drive as it was "out
of the box".

I have people bring me unopened computers they have just taken deliver of so
that I can provide this service for them. Yes, they pay for a retail version
of TrueImage Home and my time. The benefit is that they can return their
computer to the way it was when I returned it to them. They can also create
their own images prior to undertaking a major software install - incase
anything goes bad. If their computer becomes severely infected they can
return it to a pristine state within 10 minutes.

--

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience & Security


Tim Walters[_2_] October 15th 09 09:09 AM

Is Acronis Startup Recovery compatible with Vista Startup Repair?
 

"Richard Urban" wrote in message
...

"Tim Walters" wrote in message
...

"Richard Urban" wrote in message
...
"Tim Walters" wrote in message
...
My laptop is an HP Pavilion Entertainment PC and my OS is Vista Home
Premium Version 6.0 Build 6000. I haven't been able to install SP1.

I've done a mirror image of Drive C on an external HD by Acronis.
Acronis offers the option of accessing Startup Recovery (through F11)
if the OS fails to boot. Is there any danger of a conflict between this
and Vista's own startup repair system?

Second question: F8 brings up a choice of options, including a system
repair. This accesses a new menu of options, one of which is a restore
from an external source. Presumably this means a mirror image. Will ANY
mirror image work with this?

Thanks for your help.





On HP computers I traditionally delete the HP recovery partition - after
I create a TrueImage image. I then expand drive C: to utilize the free
space. After this is done I install Acronis Recovery Manager, in lieu of
HP's method.

The image is created "after" I have cleansed the system of all the crap
that HP has installed. The computer is then lean and mean and ready to
be imaged as it should have been in the first place.



This sounds very interesting but I'm not 100% sure I follow you. Is the
order of the steps:

1. Clear out the crap;
2. Create an initial TrueImage image;
3. Delete the recovery partition;
4. Expand Drive C: to utilize the free space;
5. Reinstall Acronis Recovery Manager;
6. Make another image?

Assuming I've got this right, what exactly is the crap HP has put in?






My steps in sequence a

1. Image the system drive of the HP computer onto an external hard
drive. This way you can go back to "out of box" condition if needed.

2. But since out of box condition is not needed, or wanted ever again,
delete the HP system restore partition.

3. Then expand the C: partition, using the freed up and now unallocated
space from having deleted partition D:

4. Remove all of the "extra" HP supplied advertising and trial ware
that you have to pay for after 30-90 days. This includes Norton (or
McAfee) anything, Office 90 day trial, HP games, HP diagnostic programs
and any other HP utility or program that you don't want (most all of
them). Most of them are ad magnets.

5. Download and install all current operating system updates

6. Next is to install the Antivirus and Anti Malware programs of your
choice.

7. Then update Adobe Reader, Java and Adobe Flash - because a HP
computer is "always" delivered with these programs being at least 2
versions antiquated and are therefore insecure.

8. Install TrueImage Home

9. Next is a partition defrag

10. Then create the Acronis "Secure Zone" and install the Acronis
Recovery Manager.

11. Then image the system, saving the image in the Acronis Secure Zone

NOTE: This image is as I/you want it to be, not as HP thinks it should
be. All programs have been installed/replaced and updated prior to the
image.

If you think you may ever have to rely upon HP for service it is best to
keep the image that you initially created of the hard drive as it was "out
of the box".

I have people bring me unopened computers they have just taken deliver of
so that I can provide this service for them. Yes, they pay for a retail
version of TrueImage Home and my time. The benefit is that they can return
their computer to the way it was when I returned it to them. They can also
create their own images prior to undertaking a major software install -
incase anything goes bad. If their computer becomes severely infected they
can return it to a pristine state within 10 minutes.


One impoirtant question I forgot to ask: will my existing Office and
WordPerfect installations survive the process, or will I have to reinstall?






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