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Dave in KY May 19th 07 10:40 PM

Vista - Network Cable Unplugged
 
I have a home network that has a DSL modem connected to a Linksys BEFW11S4v.2
(with updated firmware) 4 port switch WiFi router. I have several XP machines
hardwired to teh switch and all have conectivity. I have a cable runnin form
the switch approximately 50 ft to an upstairs bedroom. I just purchased a
Dell with Vista for this room. The machine does not recognize teh cable. I
can carry my laptop running XP to the same room and connect the ethernet
cable and it works no problem.

I've downloaded new drivers for the internal NIC card on the Dell. Still the
Local Area Connection shows "network cable unplugged".

I've disabled IPV.6, QoS Stacker, Link-Layer topoloy discovery mapper i/o
driver and link-layer topology discovery responder and still I get "network
cable unplugged".

Frustrated eyond belief at this stage. Why does this have to be soooooooo
hard? Can you help me?



Robert Moir May 19th 07 10:55 PM

Vista - Network Cable Unplugged
 

"Dave in KY" Dave in wrote in message
...
I have a home network that has a DSL modem connected to a Linksys
BEFW11S4v.2
(with updated firmware) 4 port switch WiFi router. I have several XP
machines
hardwired to teh switch and all have conectivity. I have a cable runnin
form
the switch approximately 50 ft to an upstairs bedroom. I just purchased a
Dell with Vista for this room. The machine does not recognize teh cable. I
can carry my laptop running XP to the same room and connect the ethernet
cable and it works no problem.

I've downloaded new drivers for the internal NIC card on the Dell. Still
the
Local Area Connection shows "network cable unplugged".

I've disabled IPV.6, QoS Stacker, Link-Layer topoloy discovery mapper i/o
driver and link-layer topology discovery responder and still I get
"network
cable unplugged".

Frustrated eyond belief at this stage. Why does this have to be soooooooo
hard? Can you help me?


Change the duplex settings of the network card (in card's driver properties)
to 10Mb/Half Duplex and see if that works. It's probably set to auto-sensing
at the moment and sometimes this can fall down (I've seen it fall down with
linksys routers before actually). If that works, try fiddling with the
settings, the ideal setting would probably be 100Mb/Full Duplex.



Dave in KY May 19th 07 11:19 PM

Vista - Network Cable Unplugged
 
I tried that and it didn't help. Should I reboot afterword or does that matter?

"Robert Moir" wrote:


"Dave in KY" Dave in wrote in message
...
I have a home network that has a DSL modem connected to a Linksys
BEFW11S4v.2
(with updated firmware) 4 port switch WiFi router. I have several XP
machines
hardwired to teh switch and all have conectivity. I have a cable runnin
form
the switch approximately 50 ft to an upstairs bedroom. I just purchased a
Dell with Vista for this room. The machine does not recognize teh cable. I
can carry my laptop running XP to the same room and connect the ethernet
cable and it works no problem.

I've downloaded new drivers for the internal NIC card on the Dell. Still
the
Local Area Connection shows "network cable unplugged".

I've disabled IPV.6, QoS Stacker, Link-Layer topoloy discovery mapper i/o
driver and link-layer topology discovery responder and still I get
"network
cable unplugged".

Frustrated eyond belief at this stage. Why does this have to be soooooooo
hard? Can you help me?


Change the duplex settings of the network card (in card's driver properties)
to 10Mb/Half Duplex and see if that works. It's probably set to auto-sensing
at the moment and sometimes this can fall down (I've seen it fall down with
linksys routers before actually). If that works, try fiddling with the
settings, the ideal setting would probably be 100Mb/Full Duplex.




Martin Vaupell May 20th 07 09:52 AM

FTP acces problems with IE
 
Trying to upload some files using IE which howewer proves
a though task, alternatly im using a 3rd party program for it.
But im sure thats not intended.

The problem is i open a ftp site, and logon,
It shows AS a HTML site, well i can browse the site and such
and i can download. but i cannot add my files as i could on XP.

How want it, is to open a ftp site AS a folder style.
so i can drag/drop objects between the folders ;)

If IE7+ cant handle this, can someone advise/refer me to a browser
with such abilities.

Tx in advanced ;)

/ Eqvaliser

Dave in KY May 20th 07 11:47 AM

Vista - Network Cable Unplugged
 
Any additional thoughts out there?

"Dave in KY" wrote:

I tried that and it didn't help. Should I reboot afterword or does that matter?

"Robert Moir" wrote:


"Dave in KY" Dave in wrote in message
...
I have a home network that has a DSL modem connected to a Linksys
BEFW11S4v.2
(with updated firmware) 4 port switch WiFi router. I have several XP
machines
hardwired to teh switch and all have conectivity. I have a cable runnin
form
the switch approximately 50 ft to an upstairs bedroom. I just purchased a
Dell with Vista for this room. The machine does not recognize teh cable. I
can carry my laptop running XP to the same room and connect the ethernet
cable and it works no problem.

I've downloaded new drivers for the internal NIC card on the Dell. Still
the
Local Area Connection shows "network cable unplugged".

I've disabled IPV.6, QoS Stacker, Link-Layer topoloy discovery mapper i/o
driver and link-layer topology discovery responder and still I get
"network
cable unplugged".

Frustrated eyond belief at this stage. Why does this have to be soooooooo
hard? Can you help me?


Change the duplex settings of the network card (in card's driver properties)
to 10Mb/Half Duplex and see if that works. It's probably set to auto-sensing
at the moment and sometimes this can fall down (I've seen it fall down with
linksys routers before actually). If that works, try fiddling with the
settings, the ideal setting would probably be 100Mb/Full Duplex.




Michael May 20th 07 12:22 PM

Vista - Network Cable Unplugged
 
Dave,
Simple things first that you may have already tried.

Does the 'network adapter' show up in Device manager? (It should as you get
the disconnected message)

Do the connectivity lights come on at the router and Dell end?
Expect that there are two small lights at the dell end, one should light
when cable is connected to router the other when traffic is passing.

If the lights at the Dell and router end don't light it is possible (not
very likely with newer gear) that you have the wrong type of cable between
the Dell and the router. There are two cables wirings: normal and crossover.
Modern gear detects which cable is being used so doesn't matter. Some
el-cheapo devices don't do the auto detect.

If that is the case (again pretty unusual with newer gear) you will need to
change the cable or get a really cheap network hub (they contain an internal
crossover).

If you have a crossover cable, then it should work if you connect the Dell
and one of your laptops directly without the router. You will get a local
peer-peer two computer network with the lights on.

Michael

"Dave in KY" wrote in message
...
Any additional thoughts out there?

"Dave in KY" wrote:

I tried that and it didn't help. Should I reboot afterword or does that
matter?

"Robert Moir" wrote:


"Dave in KY" Dave in wrote in message
...
I have a home network that has a DSL modem connected to a Linksys
BEFW11S4v.2
(with updated firmware) 4 port switch WiFi router. I have several XP
machines
hardwired to teh switch and all have conectivity. I have a cable
runnin
form
the switch approximately 50 ft to an upstairs bedroom. I just
purchased a
Dell with Vista for this room. The machine does not recognize teh
cable. I
can carry my laptop running XP to the same room and connect the
ethernet
cable and it works no problem.

I've downloaded new drivers for the internal NIC card on the Dell.
Still
the
Local Area Connection shows "network cable unplugged".

I've disabled IPV.6, QoS Stacker, Link-Layer topoloy discovery mapper
i/o
driver and link-layer topology discovery responder and still I get
"network
cable unplugged".

Frustrated eyond belief at this stage. Why does this have to be
soooooooo
hard? Can you help me?

Change the duplex settings of the network card (in card's driver
properties)
to 10Mb/Half Duplex and see if that works. It's probably set to
auto-sensing
at the moment and sometimes this can fall down (I've seen it fall down
with
linksys routers before actually). If that works, try fiddling with the
settings, the ideal setting would probably be 100Mb/Full Duplex.





Steve Urbach May 20th 07 06:26 PM

Vista - Network Cable Unplugged
 
On Sun, 20 May 2007 08:22:39 -0400, "Michael" wrote:

Dave,
Simple things first that you may have already tried.

Does the 'network adapter' show up in Device manager? (It should as you get
the disconnected message)

Do the connectivity lights come on at the router and Dell end?
Expect that there are two small lights at the dell end, one should light
when cable is connected to router the other when traffic is passing.

If the lights at the Dell and router end don't light it is possible (not
very likely with newer gear) that you have the wrong type of cable between
the Dell and the router. There are two cables wirings: normal and crossover.
Modern gear detects which cable is being used so doesn't matter. Some
el-cheapo devices don't do the auto detect.

If that is the case (again pretty unusual with newer gear) you will need to
change the cable or get a really cheap network hub (they contain an internal
crossover).

If you have a crossover cable, then it should work if you connect the Dell
and one of your laptops directly without the router. You will get a local
peer-peer two computer network with the lights on.

Michael

I agree with your diagnosis.

There is a 3rd type of cable out the
Miswired.

Some hardware will work wit incorrect pairings on shorter runs (50' is a
fairly short run). Others are fussy.

OP, Look at the colors of the wires in both ends. Holding the plugs the same
way, a straight cable will be identical. while their is a color convention, as
long as the PAIRS are properly terminated, it will work


Important NOTE pr2 (usually the green pair) is split around pr1 (not really
used except for POE equipment)
pr4b
pr4a
pr2b ---
pr1a
pr1b
pr2a ---
pr3b
pr3a

Lastly, disable "allow power to be turned off on this device" feature (at
least for testing).


Angouby May 21st 07 12:44 AM

Vista - Network Cable Unplugged
 
If it's work on your laptop, maybe the problem come from your network card on
your dell desktop. first try to reset your network interface controler.
reboot the dellcomputer and press f2 when you see the dell logo the computer
is starting to enter in the setup program.
In setup program go to onboard devices -- NETWORK INTEGRATED CONTROLLER and
disable the network integrated controller(NIC).
save and exit the setup program; shutdown he computer and unplug the power
cord from the back of your computer.
press the power button and maintain it pressed for 10 seconde while the
power cord is unplugged. next plug the power cord move again in setup program
by pressing f2 when you see the DELL logo.
on your keyboard strike ALT+E, and ALT+F; these combinaison reset your
setup program configurattion by the way, your network card configuration is
reseted too. save and exit the setup program. start normally you operating
system. and plug your network cord. the problem must been resolve.


"Steve Urbach" wrote:

On Sun, 20 May 2007 08:22:39 -0400, "Michael" wrote:

Dave,
Simple things first that you may have already tried.

Does the 'network adapter' show up in Device manager? (It should as you get
the disconnected message)

Do the connectivity lights come on at the router and Dell end?
Expect that there are two small lights at the dell end, one should light
when cable is connected to router the other when traffic is passing.

If the lights at the Dell and router end don't light it is possible (not
very likely with newer gear) that you have the wrong type of cable between
the Dell and the router. There are two cables wirings: normal and crossover.
Modern gear detects which cable is being used so doesn't matter. Some
el-cheapo devices don't do the auto detect.

If that is the case (again pretty unusual with newer gear) you will need to
change the cable or get a really cheap network hub (they contain an internal
crossover).

If you have a crossover cable, then it should work if you connect the Dell
and one of your laptops directly without the router. You will get a local
peer-peer two computer network with the lights on.

Michael

I agree with your diagnosis.

There is a 3rd type of cable out the
Miswired.

Some hardware will work wit incorrect pairings on shorter runs (50' is a
fairly short run). Others are fussy.

OP, Look at the colors of the wires in both ends. Holding the plugs the same
way, a straight cable will be identical. while their is a color convention, as
long as the PAIRS are properly terminated, it will work


Important NOTE pr2 (usually the green pair) is split around pr1 (not really
used except for POE equipment)
pr4b
pr4a
pr2b ---
pr1a
pr1b
pr2a ---
pr3b
pr3a

Lastly, disable "allow power to be turned off on this device" feature (at
least for testing).



BaRut March 22nd 10 12:59 PM

Vista - Network Cable Unplugged
 

I had a similar problem and found the fix. The issue: Windows Vista
machine connected to Linksys 8-port gigabit switch. The switch is
connected to a router (of course). All other non-Vista machines
connected to the switch worked fine. But, the Vista machine displayed
"network cable unplugged" message when connected to the
switch...however, it worked great when plugged directly into the router
(same cable used when connected to router and switch so I KNEW it was
NOT the cable). There were many suggested "fixes" out there, but the
ONE that worked was... Control Panel / System / Device Manager / Network
Adapters / Right Click on your network adapter / Properties / Advanced
Tab / Speed-Duplex Settings----CHANGE THIS SETTING TO "100 Mb Full
Duplex". The "Auto" setting apparently does not work when the machine
is connected to a switch. I don't completely understand why this
worked...but it did work!
Barry


--
BaRut

Jack [MVP-Networking] March 22nd 10 03:22 PM

Vista - Network Cable Unplugged
 
Hi
I am glad that you solve your problem.
However your explanation is somewhat lacking to in describing a solution to
such problem.
A Router is a combo unit of Routing circuits, Wireless Access Point, and a
switch.
There is No difference between the switch inside a Router and a stand alone
None manage switch.
It could be that your switch is Not doing so well any more, and it could be
a general mismatch in your Network.
In many cases switching to Force Full Duplex can hinder None Pro Network
rather than Help.
Jack (MS, MVP-Networking).


"BaRut" wrote in message
...

I had a similar problem and found the fix. The issue: Windows Vista
machine connected to Linksys 8-port gigabit switch. The switch is
connected to a router (of course). All other non-Vista machines
connected to the switch worked fine. But, the Vista machine displayed
"network cable unplugged" message when connected to the
switch...however, it worked great when plugged directly into the router
(same cable used when connected to router and switch so I KNEW it was
NOT the cable). There were many suggested "fixes" out there, but the
ONE that worked was... Control Panel / System / Device Manager / Network
Adapters / Right Click on your network adapter / Properties / Advanced
Tab / Speed-Duplex Settings----CHANGE THIS SETTING TO "100 Mb Full
Duplex". The "Auto" setting apparently does not work when the machine
is connected to a switch. I don't completely understand why this
worked...but it did work!
Barry


--
BaRut




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