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Can I use Aero Glass



 
 
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Old November 2nd 06, 09:44 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
chaos29
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Default Can I use Aero Glass

hello,

I have a Mobile Intel(R) 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Chipset Family ( Microsoft
Corporation - XDDM ) graphic card. 128 MB

On an Acer TravelMate Notebook.
I cant find anything to enable aero, do I need any special drivers ?
or is it not possible with this graphic card to use aero ?

I am using Vista RC2

thank you


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Old November 2nd 06, 01:03 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
Kerry Brown
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Default Can I use Aero Glass

Intel has not released wddm drivers for the 915 graphics. At an Intel road
show I attended last week they said they had no plans to release wddm
drivers for this chipset. They explicitly stated that Aero would not be
supported on the 915 chipset series unless you install a discrete video
card. This means laptops using 915 graphics cannot use Aero.

--
Kerry
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


chaos29 wrote:
hello,

I have a Mobile Intel(R) 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Chipset Family (
Microsoft Corporation - XDDM ) graphic card. 128 MB

On an Acer TravelMate Notebook.
I cant find anything to enable aero, do I need any special drivers ?
or is it not possible with this graphic card to use aero ?

I am using Vista RC2

thank you



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Old November 2nd 06, 06:09 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
RandyH
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Default Can I use Aero Glass

F INTEL!!


"Kerry Brown" *a*m wrote in message
...
Intel has not released wddm drivers for the 915 graphics. At an Intel road
show I attended last week they said they had no plans to release wddm
drivers for this chipset. They explicitly stated that Aero would not be
supported on the 915 chipset series unless you install a discrete video
card. This means laptops using 915 graphics cannot use Aero.

--
Kerry
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


chaos29 wrote:
hello,

I have a Mobile Intel(R) 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Chipset Family (
Microsoft Corporation - XDDM ) graphic card. 128 MB

On an Acer TravelMate Notebook.
I cant find anything to enable aero, do I need any special drivers ?
or is it not possible with this graphic card to use aero ?

I am using Vista RC2

thank you




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Old November 2nd 06, 07:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
JW
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Default Can I use Aero Glass

Your remarks are totally uncalled for. Apparently you do not realize that
the 915 grapichs chip does not have the required functionality internally to
support Aero and therfore Intel can not realease Aero compatible drivers for
it without incorporating the required unique CPU consuming missing functions
using vomplex snd extensive to software within the driver. And even it they
did MS would not allow the 915 chipset to be included in its designed for
Vista premium logo program since the functinality requied is not in the
chipset.
However I guess if you were around when color TV was introduced that you
were also very upset when your TV manufacturer did not upgrade your black
and white TV. Or I guess you are upset if your 720p native resolution HDTV
can not be upgraded to a 1080p native resolution.

"RandyH" wrote in message
...
F INTEL!!


"Kerry Brown" *a*m wrote in message
...
Intel has not released wddm drivers for the 915 graphics. At an Intel
road show I attended last week they said they had no plans to release
wddm drivers for this chipset. They explicitly stated that Aero would not
be supported on the 915 chipset series unless you install a discrete
video card. This means laptops using 915 graphics cannot use Aero.

--
Kerry
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


chaos29 wrote:
hello,

I have a Mobile Intel(R) 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Chipset Family (
Microsoft Corporation - XDDM ) graphic card. 128 MB

On an Acer TravelMate Notebook.
I cant find anything to enable aero, do I need any special drivers ?
or is it not possible with this graphic card to use aero ?

I am using Vista RC2

thank you






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Old November 2nd 06, 07:48 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
RandyH
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Default Can I use Aero Glass

Obviously !...GOSH...

can you tell my how many gigaflops' a nanometer vibrates at?

F INTEL! HAHA

"JW" wrote in message
...
Your remarks are totally uncalled for. Apparently you do not realize that
the 915 grapichs chip does not have the required functionality internally
to support Aero and therfore Intel can not realease Aero compatible
drivers for it without incorporating the required unique CPU consuming
missing functions using vomplex snd extensive to software within the
driver. And even it they did MS would not allow the 915 chipset to be
included in its designed for Vista premium logo program since the
functinality requied is not in the chipset.
However I guess if you were around when color TV was introduced that you
were also very upset when your TV manufacturer did not upgrade your black
and white TV. Or I guess you are upset if your 720p native resolution HDTV
can not be upgraded to a 1080p native resolution.

"RandyH" wrote in message
...
F INTEL!!


"Kerry Brown" *a*m wrote in message
...
Intel has not released wddm drivers for the 915 graphics. At an Intel
road show I attended last week they said they had no plans to release
wddm drivers for this chipset. They explicitly stated that Aero would
not be supported on the 915 chipset series unless you install a discrete
video card. This means laptops using 915 graphics cannot use Aero.

--
Kerry
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


chaos29 wrote:
hello,

I have a Mobile Intel(R) 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Chipset Family (
Microsoft Corporation - XDDM ) graphic card. 128 MB

On an Acer TravelMate Notebook.
I cant find anything to enable aero, do I need any special drivers ?
or is it not possible with this graphic card to use aero ?

I am using Vista RC2

thank you






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Old November 2nd 06, 09:31 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
Kerry Brown
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Default Can I use Aero Glass

I agree with Randy H's sentiments if not his method of expressing them. The
915 graphics does meet the specifications needed for Intel to write a wddm
driver. Even though it meets the specifications it is possible that the
performance would be too slow. Intel did not say this though. Their stated
reason for not supporting the 915 chipset with a wddm driver was because it
was too old. It was a marketing decision.

--
Kerry
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


JW wrote:
Your remarks are totally uncalled for. Apparently you do not realize
that the 915 grapichs chip does not have the required functionality
internally to support Aero and therfore Intel can not realease Aero
compatible drivers for it without incorporating the required unique
CPU consuming missing functions using vomplex snd extensive to
software within the driver. And even it they did MS would not allow
the 915 chipset to be included in its designed for Vista premium logo
program since the functinality requied is not in the chipset.
However I guess if you were around when color TV was introduced that
you were also very upset when your TV manufacturer did not upgrade
your black and white TV. Or I guess you are upset if your 720p native
resolution HDTV can not be upgraded to a 1080p native resolution.

"RandyH" wrote in message
...
F INTEL!!


"Kerry Brown" *a*m wrote in message
...
Intel has not released wddm drivers for the 915 graphics. At an
Intel road show I attended last week they said they had no plans to
release wddm drivers for this chipset. They explicitly stated that
Aero would not be supported on the 915 chipset series unless you
install a discrete video card. This means laptops using 915
graphics cannot use Aero. --
Kerry
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


chaos29 wrote:
hello,

I have a Mobile Intel(R) 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Chipset Family (
Microsoft Corporation - XDDM ) graphic card. 128 MB

On an Acer TravelMate Notebook.
I cant find anything to enable aero, do I need any special drivers
? or is it not possible with this graphic card to use aero ?

I am using Vista RC2

thank you



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Old November 2nd 06, 11:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
Curious
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Posts: 4
Default Can I use Aero Glass

Kerry,
I think you and JW are saying the same thing. Yes, you are correct that
nothing prevents Intel from writing WDDM driver for the 915 Chipset,
however, since functionality required such as DX9 support rather then the
DX8 support contained in the 915 chipset would have to be included in the
driver. ( Note: This is exactly what ATI did in their Catalyst drivers in
order that their 91xx and 92xx chip based graphics cards could be used with
MCE2005) And as you and JW pointed out this would cause a performance
penalty and for this reason their marketing organization did not want to
allocate the R&D resources to add the functionality to their 945 chipset
Vista driver so that it could also provide the required support for 915
chips.

"Kerry Brown" *a*m wrote in message
...
I agree with Randy H's sentiments if not his method of expressing them. The
915 graphics does meet the specifications needed for Intel to write a wddm
driver. Even though it meets the specifications it is possible that the
performance would be too slow. Intel did not say this though. Their stated
reason for not supporting the 915 chipset with a wddm driver was because it
was too old. It was a marketing decision.

--
Kerry
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


JW wrote:
Your remarks are totally uncalled for. Apparently you do not realize
that the 915 grapichs chip does not have the required functionality
internally to support Aero and therfore Intel can not realease Aero
compatible drivers for it without incorporating the required unique
CPU consuming missing functions using vomplex snd extensive to
software within the driver. And even it they did MS would not allow
the 915 chipset to be included in its designed for Vista premium logo
program since the functinality requied is not in the chipset.
However I guess if you were around when color TV was introduced that
you were also very upset when your TV manufacturer did not upgrade
your black and white TV. Or I guess you are upset if your 720p native
resolution HDTV can not be upgraded to a 1080p native resolution.

"RandyH" wrote in message
...
F INTEL!!


"Kerry Brown" *a*m wrote in message
...
Intel has not released wddm drivers for the 915 graphics. At an
Intel road show I attended last week they said they had no plans to
release wddm drivers for this chipset. They explicitly stated that
Aero would not be supported on the 915 chipset series unless you
install a discrete video card. This means laptops using 915
graphics cannot use Aero. --
Kerry
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


chaos29 wrote:
hello,

I have a Mobile Intel(R) 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Chipset Family (
Microsoft Corporation - XDDM ) graphic card. 128 MB

On an Acer TravelMate Notebook.
I cant find anything to enable aero, do I need any special drivers
? or is it not possible with this graphic card to use aero ?

I am using Vista RC2

thank you





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Old February 11th 07, 04:54 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
Teeravee Sirinapasawasdee
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Posts: 9
Default Can I use Aero Glass

Hi,

If you are using Intel 915 chipset without aonther graphic chipset onboard,
goto http://www.petitiononline.com/intel915/petition.html and sign it. The
owner of petition will send this list to Intel that we are in trouble.

Cheers,
Pound@Gestalt


"chaos29" wrote:

hello,

I have a Mobile Intel(R) 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Chipset Family ( Microsoft
Corporation - XDDM ) graphic card. 128 MB

On an Acer TravelMate Notebook.
I cant find anything to enable aero, do I need any special drivers ?
or is it not possible with this graphic card to use aero ?

I am using Vista RC2

thank you


 




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