Ah, "Dir /x" - THAT'S the secret! Thanks I shall note that one.

8 years old eh? Yes I too recall the frustrations of "syntax error", as if
the system new what one was doing but, like a teacher was bloody-mindedly
impressing a point! LOL. I guess now, at 40 odd he probably runs rings around
both of us?

Cheers, have a great day.
Kevryl
PS: I keep ticking "notify me of replies", but it never does. :-(

"R. C. White" wrote:

Hi, Kevryl.

Ah, memories! Some fun, some not. ;^}

Even in Win7, I often find that Dir /s in an elevated "DOS" window is still
much faster and more effective than pressing Start and typing in what I'm
looking for - but not always. Often, Search is so fast it's amazing; it
sometimes finds what I want before I can finish typing the search word.

But some things the GUI simply can't do. For example, the Dir /x command
will reveal the 8.3 Short File Name for any Long File Name. VERY handy for
when the LFN includes a space or other illegal character. Or when the LFN
is just too long to qualify as an SFN. Dir /x shows the SFNs in a column
before the LFNs, but only for each LFN that does not also qualify as an SFN.

I stumbled on a "fix" for the problem of finding my user folder (though I
can't find how I did it now,.

I don't know how you did it either, but don't argue with success. ;)

Like each other step up the learning curve, it will take a few days to get
comfy with Win7; after that, only a few users choose to go back to their
earlier system. I recall how angry and irritated my then-8-year-old son was
in 1978 when TRS-80's Level II BASIC replaced the simple, tiny 4 KB Level I
BASIC. ("What's a Syntax Error? Why can't it just say 'WHAT?' like it did
before?")

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64

"Kevryl" wrote in message
...
Thanks, R.C. for the useful info. Yes, I well remember when "folders" were
"directories", and when you could read the whole "config.sys" file while
between taking sips of coffee! oh, and do you remember (fondly) those
real,
hard-copy manuals, keyboard templates and quick-reference flip-cards that
came with software like Lotus 1-2-3 and Enable? And I wonder why mass-file
handling and filtering capabilities of programmes like Borland's X-tree
were
never incorporated by Microsoft into their limited "Explorer" windows?
Once
the extended filenames came into being it seemed to me that trying to find
anything, guessing characters that would be substututed and appended after
the first 6 (was it?) made using DOS directory commnds rather impractical.
However I'll keep your info as a reference and look back into it. Anyway,
back to the present:

I stumbled on a "fix" for the problem of finding my user folder (though I
can't find how I did it now,. In the User tree where "default" was listed,
I
think I right-clicked the default folder name. Whatever I did there was
the
option to "move down one position" (or very similar wording). I did that
and
all the folders, including my own magically appeared! Go figure! As I'm
looking for where I found that (its not under the right-click menu any
longer) the "search sub-directories" that I kept getting when my folder
was
invisible is also not to be found. The nuances of Windows 7 are quite
puzzling to me at this early stage. :-|

Cheers, Kevryl.

"R. C. White" wrote:

Hi, Kevryl.

As Ken explained, MS has decided that there will be NO Win7 newsgroups -
and
I'm as disappointed as Ken about this. :(

As to your C:\Users\Kevryl folder tree...

immediately under c:\users, but when I go to c: drive, I find only
public
and
default,

Is this in Windows Explorer? What IS your username? Might it possibly
include "illegal" characters? It should not, of course, because Windows
should not let you create such a username in the first place, but strange
things happen sometimes.

In an elevated Command Prompt window, you should be able to use the Dir
command, held over from MS-DOS days when "folders" were Directories. (As
with any command here, just type Dir /? to see a mini-Help file listing
the
switches and parameters available with this command.) Start with your
username:
Dir C:\kevryl /s/a

The /s and /a switches search all subfolders and list all files, even
those
with Hidden, System or other attributes. If a file or folder named
"kevryl"
is anywhere in Drive C: it should show up and you can read the full
pathname. (You could also search for "outlook.pst", of course.)

If that doesn't work, post back with details about what you did - step by
step - and what result you saw - verbatim; please don't paraphrase any
error
message that might appear. Several other techniques are available to
fine-tune Dir searches.

I'm assuming of course that you are an Administrator and logged in as
such.

RC

"Kevryl" wrote in message
...
Hello all,

Somewhere there HAS to be a Windows 7 discussion group, but it doesn't
seem
to be listed anywhere in the Microsoft discussion groups tree. Someone
in
here may be able to help or at least point me to a Win 7 discussion
group.

I have just bought 2 identical machines with Win 7 installed. My user
account is there on both (libraries documents right click properties)
immediately under c:\users, but when I go to c: drive, I find only
public
and
default, and when invited to "search in sub-folders" an unintelligibnle
mish-mash of files and folders appear, and still my own user folder is
not
visible (even after playing with the alphabetical selection down
arrow). I
have gone into folder options/view and selected "show hidden folders,
files
and drives" and even unticked "hide unprotected operating system
files".
My
user account still wont appear so I can get into it and copy my
"outlook.pst"
file from the old machine into its rightful place on the new ones.

If anyone can help me with this issue, and how to get from this
mish-mash
of
flattened out fiolders and files into a real directory structure I'd be
most
appreciative!

.