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Old May 24th 09, 11:48 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup
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Hi, my question is.... I have a quad core machine with vista home
premuim 64bit...I dont like vista cause it wont run older games that I
play. I have a xp media center edition 2005 dual-core from a older e
machine T6532. Would this work? I dont mind updating everything once its
in. But would it work or would I just mess up computer more.


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Old May 24th 09, 12:20 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup
Malke[_2_]
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gregspappy wrote:


Hi, my question is.... I have a quad core machine with vista home
premuim 64bit...I dont like vista cause it wont run older games that I
play. I have a xp media center edition 2005 dual-core from a older e
machine T6532. Would this work? I dont mind updating everything once its
in. But would it work or would I just mess up computer more.


You would need to purchase a new full retail copy of XP. The MCE version is
tied to the older machine.

General information about replacing Vista with XP:

A. On an OEM (HP, Sony, etc.) computer:

1. Go to the OEM's website and look for XP drivers for your specific model
computer. If there are no XP drivers, then you can't install XP. End of
story. If there are drivers, download them and store on a CD-R or USB
thumbdrive; you'll need them after you install XP.

2. Check with the OEM - either from their tech support website or by calling
them - to see if you will void your warranty if you do this. If you will
void the warranty, you make the decision.

3. If the OEM does support XP on the machine, call them and see if you can
have downgrade rights and have them send you an XP restore disk. This will
be far the easiest and best way of getting XP on the machine.

4. If XP is supported on the machine but the OEM doesn't have an XP restore
disk for you, understand that you'll need to purchase a retail copy of XP
from your favorite online or brick/mortar store.

5. Also understand that you will need to do a clean install of XP so if you
have any data you want, back it up first.

6. If none of the above is applicable to you because you can't run XP on
that machine (see Item #1 above), return the computer and purchase one
running XP instead.

B. On a generic/home-built computer (from non-OEM company) - You will need
drivers for all your hardware. See the second link below for more details:

http://michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html - Clean Install How-To
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/...alling_Windows - What
you will need on-hand

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Old May 24th 09, 05:06 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup
Bruce Chambers
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gregspappy wrote:
Hi, my question is.... I have a quad core machine with vista home
premuim 64bit...I dont like vista cause it wont run older games that I
play.



Have you tried running those games in one of Vista's compatibility modes?


I have a xp media center edition 2005 dual-core from a older e
machine T6532. Would this work?



No, you should not be able to. By your own admission, you have an
OEM license for WinXP from the defunct machine. An OEM version must be
sold with a piece of hardware (normally a motherboard or hard rive, if
not an entire PC) and is _permanently_ bound to the first PC on which
it's installed. An OEM license, once installed, is not legally
transferable to another computer under _any_ circumstances. You'll need
to purchase a another license for WinXP for use on the new computer.

Further, there could be a couple possible adverse repercussions of
which you should be aware. First and foremost, if the specific computer
model in question was designed specifically for Vista, there may well be
no WinXP-specific device drivers available to make the computer's
diverse components work properly. Consult the computer's manufacturer
about the availability of device drivers. Secondly, removing an
OEM-installed operating system and replacing it with another will almost
invariably void any and all support agreements and, in rare cases,
possibly even the warranty. You would, at the very least, have to
re-install Vista before getting any support from the manufacturer.
Again, consult the computer's manufacturer for specifics. Thirdly,
there will be the additional cost involved in purchasing a WinXP license
for this new computer.

After backing up any data you wish to transfer to the new OS
installation, simply boot from the WinXP installation CD. You'll be
offered the opportunity to delete, create, and format partitions as part
of the installation process. (You may need to re-arrange the order of
boot devices in the PC's BIOS to boot from the CD.)

HOW TO Install Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default...B;en-us;316941

http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html

http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/clean_install.htm

Then, assuming you were successful in obtaining WinXP-specific
device drivers so that the computer can be made to work with WinXP, the
backed up data can be restored and applications (those that are
WinXP-compatible, that is) re-installed.



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Old May 24th 09, 08:55 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup
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"gregspappy" wrote in message
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Hi, my question is.... I have a quad core machine with vista home
premuim 64bit...I dont like vista cause it wont run older games that I
play. I have a xp media center edition 2005 dual-core from a older e
machine T6532. Would this work? I dont mind updating everything once its
in. But would it work or would I just mess up computer more.


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gregspappy


First, before you start, you must have all the drivers at hand, in XP
versions. Get them from the manufacturer's sites.

If you can't find them, then you won't be able to successfully install XP.

If you really want to test, get a spare hard disk, and swap it in; do the
test XP install to that to evaluate whether you can make the system work.
You should be able to get a used 40-gig SATA drive to test the install for a
few dollars. But, remove your existing system drive so that you don't mess
up its install.

There are subsequently licensing issues, specifically that you cannot use
that OEM WME version on any system other than the one it came with.

Finally, two things. There is no "dual-core" version of Windows, it's a
limitation on the number physical processors, and that's not the number of
cores within the processor. A processor can have multiple cores and still
be counted as one processor.

And Windows Media Edition has a number of technical characteristics that
cause serious problems with a variety of applications, so it would be much
better to walk away from that disk.

HTH
-pk


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Old May 25th 09, 12:59 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup
John Barnes[_4_]
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You could consider installing a virtual machine and running XP in it for
your games. In any case you will need a new copy of XP as mentioned earlier


"gregspappy" wrote in message
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Hi, my question is.... I have a quad core machine with vista home
premuim 64bit...I dont like vista cause it wont run older games that I
play. I have a xp media center edition 2005 dual-core from a older e
machine T6532. Would this work? I dont mind updating everything once its
in. But would it work or would I just mess up computer more.


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gregspappy


 




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