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Create Disk Partition / Dual boot?
Question: How do you create a disk partition in Vista Home premium if the
disk is not dynamic? I would like to install a trial version of Windows 7 to see if business apps will run.... and would much prefer to keep all of that on a seperate partition with option to boot either Win7 or Vista... articles or professional advice on pros and cons desired... |
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Create Disk Partition / Dual boot?
On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 22:38:45 -0400, "Lee" wrote:
Question: How do you create a disk partition in Vista Home premium if the disk is not dynamic? I would like to install a trial version of Windows 7 to see if business apps will run.... and would much prefer to keep all of that on a seperate partition with option to boot either Win7 or Vista... articles or professional advice on pros and cons desired... The disk not being dynamic is irrelevant. You can easily create a partition if you have available unpartitioned space. You apparently don't have that space, and all your disk space is used in whatever partitions you already have. So what you want to do is not simply *create* a partition, but *reallocate* the already-partitioned space to have one additional partition. To do that, you need third-party software. There are several choices to do this, and the most popular is Partition Magic. However bear in mind that you would need to spend about $60US for Partition Magic. You could buy an additional hard drive of about 160GB for less money than that, and I think that would be a much better choice. And one final point (question): what business apps are you concerned with? In my experience, almost everything that runs on Vista also runs on Windows 7 (I'm running Windows 7 RTM here) without a problem. The only exceptions I've seen have been a few utility programs. -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003 Please Reply to the Newsgroup |
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Create Disk Partition / Dual boot?
On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 22:38:45 -0400, "Lee" wrote:
Question: How do you create a disk partition in Vista Home premium if the disk is not dynamic? I would like to install a trial version of Windows 7 to see if business apps will run.... and would much prefer to keep all of that on a seperate partition with option to boot either Win7 or Vista... articles or professional advice on pros and cons desired... The disk not being dynamic is irrelevant. You can easily create a partition if you have available unpartitioned space. You apparently don't have that space, and all your disk space is used in whatever partitions you already have. So what you want to do is not simply *create* a partition, but *reallocate* the already-partitioned space to have one additional partition. To do that, you need third-party software. There are several choices to do this, and the most popular is Partition Magic. However bear in mind that you would need to spend about $60US for Partition Magic. You could buy an additional hard drive of about 160GB for less money than that, and I think that would be a much better choice. And one final point (question): what business apps are you concerned with? In my experience, almost everything that runs on Vista also runs on Windows 7 (I'm running Windows 7 RTM here) without a problem. The only exceptions I've seen have been a few utility programs. -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003 Please Reply to the Newsgroup |
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Create Disk Partition / Dual boot?
To add but little to ground covered by Hank and Ken:
You have two basic choices: Add a physical hard drive and use that for Windows 7 or if there is sufficient available space on your present drive, shrink that dive and partition it and use that for another volume. None of this requires dynamic volumes. Also, you have the choice of using Windows in-built tools or 3rd party tools. In most circumstances, using the in-built tools is cheaper "(for obvious reasons) but the 3rd party tools can be easier to use. Also, there are some circumstances when the Windows tools cannot provide a good solution since they are more limited. Assuming the route of having enough available space on the present HD and the use of Windows tools: Go to Control Panel Administrative tools Storage Disk Management Right click on the HD in the list and select Shrink Disk on the context menu. Follow the prompts. After the disk is shrunk, right mouse click on the space and choose to create new volume. Follow the prompts. (allow a drive letter be assigned and allow a format). OK out. A new primary partition will be created with NBTFS format is you follow the defaults. When the HD drive/volume has been shrunk and the new drive created, restart the machine. Install Windows 7. I would start the install from the original OS and choose a new install if both OSs are either 32 or 64 bit. This will keep the drive letter assignments consistent between OSs. As always before disk operations, make sure all your user files are backed up. Also, that you have good back-ups of your OS and application programs or the installation media is available and usable. Tom Ferguson "Lee" wrote in message ... Question: How do you create a disk partition in Vista Home premium if the disk is not dynamic? I would like to install a trial version of Windows 7 to see if business apps will run.... and would much prefer to keep all of that on a seperate partition with option to boot either Win7 or Vista... articles or professional advice on pros and cons desired... |
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Create Disk Partition / Dual boot?
To add but little to ground covered by Hank and Ken:
You have two basic choices: Add a physical hard drive and use that for Windows 7 or if there is sufficient available space on your present drive, shrink that dive and partition it and use that for another volume. None of this requires dynamic volumes. Also, you have the choice of using Windows in-built tools or 3rd party tools. In most circumstances, using the in-built tools is cheaper "(for obvious reasons) but the 3rd party tools can be easier to use. Also, there are some circumstances when the Windows tools cannot provide a good solution since they are more limited. Assuming the route of having enough available space on the present HD and the use of Windows tools: Go to Control Panel Administrative tools Storage Disk Management Right click on the HD in the list and select Shrink Disk on the context menu. Follow the prompts. After the disk is shrunk, right mouse click on the space and choose to create new volume. Follow the prompts. (allow a drive letter be assigned and allow a format). OK out. A new primary partition will be created with NBTFS format is you follow the defaults. When the HD drive/volume has been shrunk and the new drive created, restart the machine. Install Windows 7. I would start the install from the original OS and choose a new install if both OSs are either 32 or 64 bit. This will keep the drive letter assignments consistent between OSs. As always before disk operations, make sure all your user files are backed up. Also, that you have good back-ups of your OS and application programs or the installation media is available and usable. Tom Ferguson "Lee" wrote in message ... Question: How do you create a disk partition in Vista Home premium if the disk is not dynamic? I would like to install a trial version of Windows 7 to see if business apps will run.... and would much prefer to keep all of that on a seperate partition with option to boot either Win7 or Vista... articles or professional advice on pros and cons desired... |
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Create Disk Partition / Dual boot?
Hi, Lee.
As Hank and Ken said, you probably need to shrink your existing partition and create a new partition in its place. You MAY need 3rd-party software, as they suggested, but it depends on your existing disk system. Are you familiar with Disk Management? It has been a part of every version of Windows since Windows 2000 and gets more features with each successive version. There are several ways to run DM; my favorite is just to click Start, type in "diskmgmt.msc" and press Enter. You'll need Administrator credentials, of course, since this utility allows you to make some serious changes to your hard disk system - and to USB flash drives, optical drives and just about anything else that can be assigned a "drive" letter. Maximize the window so that you're no working through a keyhole. By default, the top of the screen shows the Volume List; the bottom shows the Graphical View. In the Graphical View, right-click in your Drive C: and see if it offers to Shrink Volume. If it does, try to shrink it by at least 20,000 MB. (That's ~20 GB, of course, but DM deals only in MB and if you ask for 20, you won't like the results.) That should leave you with 20 GB of Free Space, sometimes called Unallocated Space. Right-click in this Free Space and choose New simple volume, then format it (NTFS, of course) and assign it any available drive letter. If Shrink Volume is not available, or can't shrink by as many MB as you need, there probably is an unmovable file near the far end of that volume. In that case, then, yes, you will likely need 3rd-party help. Or, as Hank and Ken suggested, it may be cheaper to buy a new 500 GB HDD than to buy the software to manage your existing disk space. ;) (I see Tom just posted what I said - but I've already got it typed, so here it is. Enjoy!) RC -- R. C. White, CPA San Marcos, TX Microsoft Windows MVP Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64 "Lee" wrote in message ... Question: How do you create a disk partition in Vista Home premium if the disk is not dynamic? I would like to install a trial version of Windows 7 to see if business apps will run.... and would much prefer to keep all of that on a seperate partition with option to boot either Win7 or Vista... articles or professional advice on pros and cons desired... |
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Create Disk Partition / Dual boot?
Hi, Lee.
As Hank and Ken said, you probably need to shrink your existing partition and create a new partition in its place. You MAY need 3rd-party software, as they suggested, but it depends on your existing disk system. Are you familiar with Disk Management? It has been a part of every version of Windows since Windows 2000 and gets more features with each successive version. There are several ways to run DM; my favorite is just to click Start, type in "diskmgmt.msc" and press Enter. You'll need Administrator credentials, of course, since this utility allows you to make some serious changes to your hard disk system - and to USB flash drives, optical drives and just about anything else that can be assigned a "drive" letter. Maximize the window so that you're no working through a keyhole. By default, the top of the screen shows the Volume List; the bottom shows the Graphical View. In the Graphical View, right-click in your Drive C: and see if it offers to Shrink Volume. If it does, try to shrink it by at least 20,000 MB. (That's ~20 GB, of course, but DM deals only in MB and if you ask for 20, you won't like the results.) That should leave you with 20 GB of Free Space, sometimes called Unallocated Space. Right-click in this Free Space and choose New simple volume, then format it (NTFS, of course) and assign it any available drive letter. If Shrink Volume is not available, or can't shrink by as many MB as you need, there probably is an unmovable file near the far end of that volume. In that case, then, yes, you will likely need 3rd-party help. Or, as Hank and Ken suggested, it may be cheaper to buy a new 500 GB HDD than to buy the software to manage your existing disk space. ;) (I see Tom just posted what I said - but I've already got it typed, so here it is. Enjoy!) RC -- R. C. White, CPA San Marcos, TX Microsoft Windows MVP Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64 "Lee" wrote in message ... Question: How do you create a disk partition in Vista Home premium if the disk is not dynamic? I would like to install a trial version of Windows 7 to see if business apps will run.... and would much prefer to keep all of that on a seperate partition with option to boot either Win7 or Vista... articles or professional advice on pros and cons desired... |
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Create Disk Partition / Dual boot?
Hello Lee, Depending on how you have your drive(s) or partitions setup, this may be able to help you with this. 'Dual Boot Installation with Windows 7 and Vista - Windows 7 Forums' (http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...s-7-vista.html) Shawn Lee;1140412 Wrote: Question: How do you create a disk partition in Vista Home premium if the disk is not dynamic? I would like to install a trial version of Windows 7 to see if business apps will run.... and would much prefer to keep all of that on a seperate partition with option to boot either Win7 or Vista... articles or professional advice on pros and cons desired... -- Brink '*MS MVP - Windows Desktop Experience*' (https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...5-AD617AF3D511) *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask them.* '*Windows 7 Forums*' (http://www.sevenforums.com/) '*Windows Vista Forums*' (http://www.vistax64.com/) *Please post feedback to help others.* |
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Create Disk Partition / Dual boot?
Hello Lee, Depending on how you have your drive(s) or partitions setup, this may be able to help you with this. 'Dual Boot Installation with Windows 7 and Vista - Windows 7 Forums' (http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...s-7-vista.html) Shawn Lee;1140412 Wrote: Question: How do you create a disk partition in Vista Home premium if the disk is not dynamic? I would like to install a trial version of Windows 7 to see if business apps will run.... and would much prefer to keep all of that on a seperate partition with option to boot either Win7 or Vista... articles or professional advice on pros and cons desired... -- Brink '*MS MVP - Windows Desktop Experience*' (https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...5-AD617AF3D511) *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask them.* '*Windows 7 Forums*' (http://www.sevenforums.com/) '*Windows Vista Forums*' (http://www.vistax64.com/) *Please post feedback to help others.* |
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Create Disk Partition / Dual boot?
Thanks much to all you guys.. your input has been helpful...I have a 500 gb
drive and over 300 of it is free, so I plan to shrink etc per instructions... the 3rd party software I am wanting to test under Win 7 does not run in Vista 64 bit environment... Thank You again Lee "Brink" wrote in message ... Hello Lee, Depending on how you have your drive(s) or partitions setup, this may be able to help you with this. 'Dual Boot Installation with Windows 7 and Vista - Windows 7 Forums' (http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...s-7-vista.html) Shawn Lee;1140412 Wrote: Question: How do you create a disk partition in Vista Home premium if the disk is not dynamic? I would like to install a trial version of Windows 7 to see if business apps will run.... and would much prefer to keep all of that on a seperate partition with option to boot either Win7 or Vista... articles or professional advice on pros and cons desired... -- Brink '*MS MVP - Windows Desktop Experience*' (https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...5-AD617AF3D511) *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask them.* '*Windows 7 Forums*' (http://www.sevenforums.com/) '*Windows Vista Forums*' (http://www.vistax64.com/) *Please post feedback to help others.* |
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