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Firewall Exceptions for Programs versus Ports



 
 
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Old December 4th 09, 06:22 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
Don
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Default Firewall Exceptions for Programs versus Ports

I'm running Microsoft Office Groove and it is setup under Vista (Business
edition) Firewall Exceptions as a Program, not a Port. To clarify, when you
look at the properties of the Groove (Program) Exception, it does not mention
anything about ports. I know I can add an exception specifically for Port
2492 (Groove's primary communication port), but would that be redundant if
the Program Exception for Groove already opens up that specific Port. Hope
that makes sense.

I had posted the same question in the Groove Discussion Group here -
http://www.microsoft.com/communities...6-4c555df48526

but one of the Mods referred me to this group. Hope someone can help.
Thanks.
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Old December 4th 09, 09:49 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
FromTheRafters[_3_]
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Default Firewall Exceptions for Programs versus Ports

"Don" wrote in message
...
I'm running Microsoft Office Groove and it is setup under Vista
(Business
edition) Firewall Exceptions as a Program, not a Port. To clarify,
when you
look at the properties of the Groove (Program) Exception, it does not
mention
anything about ports. I know I can add an exception specifically for
Port
2492 (Groove's primary communication port), but would that be
redundant if
the Program Exception for Groove already opens up that specific Port.
Hope
that makes sense.

I had posted the same question in the Groove Discussion Group here -
http://www.microsoft.com/communities...6-4c555df48526

but one of the Mods referred me to this group. Hope someone can help.
Thanks.


Programmatically, exceptions can be made for the duration of the running
program.

User defined exceptions for the firewall?

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...55(WS.10).aspx

Use the control panel applet, or the plug-in.


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Old December 4th 09, 09:49 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
FromTheRafters[_3_]
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Default Firewall Exceptions for Programs versus Ports

"Don" wrote in message
...
I'm running Microsoft Office Groove and it is setup under Vista
(Business
edition) Firewall Exceptions as a Program, not a Port. To clarify,
when you
look at the properties of the Groove (Program) Exception, it does not
mention
anything about ports. I know I can add an exception specifically for
Port
2492 (Groove's primary communication port), but would that be
redundant if
the Program Exception for Groove already opens up that specific Port.
Hope
that makes sense.

I had posted the same question in the Groove Discussion Group here -
http://www.microsoft.com/communities...6-4c555df48526

but one of the Mods referred me to this group. Hope someone can help.
Thanks.


Programmatically, exceptions can be made for the duration of the running
program.

User defined exceptions for the firewall?

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...55(WS.10).aspx

Use the control panel applet, or the plug-in.


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Old December 5th 09, 05:32 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
Don
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Default Firewall Exceptions for Programs versus Ports



"FromTheRafters" wrote:

"Don" wrote in message
...
I'm running Microsoft Office Groove and it is setup under Vista
(Business
edition) Firewall Exceptions as a Program, not a Port. To clarify,
when you
look at the properties of the Groove (Program) Exception, it does not
mention
anything about ports. I know I can add an exception specifically for
Port
2492 (Groove's primary communication port), but would that be
redundant if
the Program Exception for Groove already opens up that specific Port.
Hope
that makes sense.

I had posted the same question in the Groove Discussion Group here -
http://www.microsoft.com/communities...6-4c555df48526

but one of the Mods referred me to this group. Hope someone can help.
Thanks.


Programmatically, exceptions can be made for the duration of the running
program.

User defined exceptions for the firewall?

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...55(WS.10).aspx

Use the control panel applet, or the plug-in.


So opening the port that the app uses manually with a specific port
exception would be less secure since the "Program Exception" closes the port
after the application is closed, correct?
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Old December 5th 09, 05:32 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
Don
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Default Firewall Exceptions for Programs versus Ports




"FromTheRafters" wrote:

"Don" wrote in message
...
I'm running Microsoft Office Groove and it is setup under Vista
(Business
edition) Firewall Exceptions as a Program, not a Port. To clarify,
when you
look at the properties of the Groove (Program) Exception, it does not
mention
anything about ports. I know I can add an exception specifically for
Port
2492 (Groove's primary communication port), but would that be
redundant if
the Program Exception for Groove already opens up that specific Port.
Hope
that makes sense.

I had posted the same question in the Groove Discussion Group here -
http://www.microsoft.com/communities...6-4c555df48526

but one of the Mods referred me to this group. Hope someone can help.
Thanks.


Programmatically, exceptions can be made for the duration of the running
program.

User defined exceptions for the firewall?

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...55(WS.10).aspx

Use the control panel applet, or the plug-in.


So opening the port that the app uses manually with a specific port
exception would be less secure since the "Program Exception" closes the port
after the application is closed, correct?
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Old December 5th 09, 08:41 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
FromTheRafters[_3_]
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Default Firewall Exceptions for Programs versus Ports

"Don" wrote in message
...


"FromTheRafters" wrote:

"Don" wrote in message
...
I'm running Microsoft Office Groove and it is setup under Vista
(Business
edition) Firewall Exceptions as a Program, not a Port. To clarify,
when you
look at the properties of the Groove (Program) Exception, it does
not
mention
anything about ports. I know I can add an exception specifically
for
Port
2492 (Groove's primary communication port), but would that be
redundant if
the Program Exception for Groove already opens up that specific
Port.
Hope
that makes sense.

I had posted the same question in the Groove Discussion Group
here -
http://www.microsoft.com/communities...6-4c555df48526

but one of the Mods referred me to this group. Hope someone can
help.
Thanks.


Programmatically, exceptions can be made for the duration of the
running
program.

User defined exceptions for the firewall?

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...55(WS.10).aspx

Use the control panel applet, or the plug-in.


So opening the port that the app uses manually with a specific port
exception would be less secure since the "Program Exception" closes
the port
after the application is closed, correct?


That's how I understand it regarding a Vista compatible program setting
its own exceptions. As for user defined exceptions for a program or a
port, I'm not sure. IIRC there's a MSDN article that explains it pretty
well, but my memory isn't as good as it used to be.


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Old December 5th 09, 08:41 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
FromTheRafters[_3_]
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Default Firewall Exceptions for Programs versus Ports

"Don" wrote in message
...


"FromTheRafters" wrote:

"Don" wrote in message
...
I'm running Microsoft Office Groove and it is setup under Vista
(Business
edition) Firewall Exceptions as a Program, not a Port. To clarify,
when you
look at the properties of the Groove (Program) Exception, it does
not
mention
anything about ports. I know I can add an exception specifically
for
Port
2492 (Groove's primary communication port), but would that be
redundant if
the Program Exception for Groove already opens up that specific
Port.
Hope
that makes sense.

I had posted the same question in the Groove Discussion Group
here -
http://www.microsoft.com/communities...6-4c555df48526

but one of the Mods referred me to this group. Hope someone can
help.
Thanks.


Programmatically, exceptions can be made for the duration of the
running
program.

User defined exceptions for the firewall?

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...55(WS.10).aspx

Use the control panel applet, or the plug-in.


So opening the port that the app uses manually with a specific port
exception would be less secure since the "Program Exception" closes
the port
after the application is closed, correct?


That's how I understand it regarding a Vista compatible program setting
its own exceptions. As for user defined exceptions for a program or a
port, I'm not sure. IIRC there's a MSDN article that explains it pretty
well, but my memory isn't as good as it used to be.


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Old December 5th 09, 08:52 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
FromTheRafters[_3_]
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Default Firewall Exceptions for Programs versus Ports

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr...21(VS.85).aspx

For programmatically adding an application to the exceptions list, and a
sort of overview of its purpose.


"FromTheRafters" erratic @nomail.afraid.org wrote in message
...
"Don" wrote in message
...
I'm running Microsoft Office Groove and it is setup under Vista
(Business
edition) Firewall Exceptions as a Program, not a Port. To clarify,
when you
look at the properties of the Groove (Program) Exception, it does not
mention
anything about ports. I know I can add an exception specifically for
Port
2492 (Groove's primary communication port), but would that be
redundant if
the Program Exception for Groove already opens up that specific Port.
Hope
that makes sense.

I had posted the same question in the Groove Discussion Group here -
http://www.microsoft.com/communities...6-4c555df48526

but one of the Mods referred me to this group. Hope someone can
help.
Thanks.


Programmatically, exceptions can be made for the duration of the
running program.

User defined exceptions for the firewall?

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...55(WS.10).aspx

Use the control panel applet, or the plug-in.



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Old December 5th 09, 08:52 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
FromTheRafters[_3_]
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Posts: 294
Default Firewall Exceptions for Programs versus Ports

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr...21(VS.85).aspx

For programmatically adding an application to the exceptions list, and a
sort of overview of its purpose.


"FromTheRafters" erratic @nomail.afraid.org wrote in message
...
"Don" wrote in message
...
I'm running Microsoft Office Groove and it is setup under Vista
(Business
edition) Firewall Exceptions as a Program, not a Port. To clarify,
when you
look at the properties of the Groove (Program) Exception, it does not
mention
anything about ports. I know I can add an exception specifically for
Port
2492 (Groove's primary communication port), but would that be
redundant if
the Program Exception for Groove already opens up that specific Port.
Hope
that makes sense.

I had posted the same question in the Groove Discussion Group here -
http://www.microsoft.com/communities...6-4c555df48526

but one of the Mods referred me to this group. Hope someone can
help.
Thanks.


Programmatically, exceptions can be made for the duration of the
running program.

User defined exceptions for the firewall?

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...55(WS.10).aspx

Use the control panel applet, or the plug-in.



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Old December 6th 09, 01:50 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
FromTheRafters[_3_]
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Default Firewall Exceptions for Programs versus Ports

"FromTheRafters" erratic @nomail.afraid.org wrote in message
...
"Don" wrote in message
...


So opening the port that the app uses manually with a specific port
exception would be less secure since the "Program Exception" closes
the port after the application is closed, correct?


That's the idea.


 




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