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  #11 (permalink)  
Old February 28th 10, 10:19 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Paul Calcagno
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Posts: 172
Default Multiple Firewalls

Pa Bear, et al.

I just got finished uninstalling CA/restarting and the computer is running
much faster. Thanks for that...............Paul C.

"Paul Calcagno" wrote in message
...
Thanks to you and PA Bear for your fine advice.

I think I'll be uninstalling my CA. That will leave me with active AV
scanner on Avira and just Windows firewall. Paul C.

"Ǝиçεl" wrote in message
...
Hello Paul,

"Do not use more than one firewall, 2 or more is a sure way to hit
trouble,
just as with AntiViru's."


The built-in Windows firewall is just as good as
any third-party firewall.

There are two interfaces for Vistas built-in firewall:

1) A simplified one accessed through the Control Panel that is the only
one most people see.

2) And the more advanced "Windows Firewall with Advanced Security
(WF.msc)," accessed via the Start Menu's Administrative Tools folder,
for the experienced user who wants better control.
-=-


http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/security/internet/sp2_wfintro.mspx


http://www.microsoft.com/security/firewalls/faq.aspx
-=-


"Paul Calcagno" wrote:

I'm running Vista Home Premium SP2, 2 GB RAM, SAS, MBAM, CA (California
Associates) AV (e-mail scanning disabled); Avira AV/Update scheduler,
CCleaner, and Windows Firewall, WLM on an Acer Aspire Desktop machine.

The system is running just great, however, I've always wondered why I
need
both the CA and the Windows firewall running at the same time. In CA I
can
create a list of website that are allowed thru the firewall, but I'm not
sure if I can do that with Windows firewall.

Is it OK to disable the CA firewall permanently? Is there a way to
specify
what is allowed thru the Windows firewall. And lastly, should I just
uninstall the whole CA suite altogether?

Thanks in advance..........Paul C.


.

  #12 (permalink)  
Old March 7th 10, 08:32 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Drew[_6_]
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Posts: 76
Default Multiple Firewalls

The built in firewall in xp is worse than useless as opposed to win vista or
win 7.. There are many free firewalls that work well with xp (comodo and
zonealarm to name 2)

http://personalfirewall.comodo.com/
http://download.cnet.com/ZoneAlarm/3...-10039884.html



"Paul Calcagno" wrote in message
...
Do you happen do know the command for the Advanced Firewall settings in
Win XP. I tried `wf.msc' on my wife's WinXP computer and it doesn't work.
Paul C.

"Ǝиçεl" wrote in message
...
Hello Paul,

"Do not use more than one firewall, 2 or more is a sure way to hit
trouble,
just as with AntiViru's."


The built-in Windows firewall is just as good as
any third-party firewall.

There are two interfaces for Vistas built-in firewall:

1) A simplified one accessed through the Control Panel that is the only
one most people see.

2) And the more advanced "Windows Firewall with Advanced Security
(WF.msc)," accessed via the Start Menu's Administrative Tools folder,
for the experienced user who wants better control.
-=-


http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/security/internet/sp2_wfintro.mspx


http://www.microsoft.com/security/firewalls/faq.aspx
-=-


"Paul Calcagno" wrote:

I'm running Vista Home Premium SP2, 2 GB RAM, SAS, MBAM, CA (California
Associates) AV (e-mail scanning disabled); Avira AV/Update scheduler,
CCleaner, and Windows Firewall, WLM on an Acer Aspire Desktop machine.

The system is running just great, however, I've always wondered why I
need
both the CA and the Windows firewall running at the same time. In CA I
can
create a list of website that are allowed thru the firewall, but I'm not
sure if I can do that with Windows firewall.

Is it OK to disable the CA firewall permanently? Is there a way to
specify
what is allowed thru the Windows firewall. And lastly, should I just
uninstall the whole CA suite altogether?

Thanks in advance..........Paul C.


.

  #13 (permalink)  
Old March 7th 10, 08:32 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Drew[_6_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 76
Default Multiple Firewalls

The built in firewall in xp is worse than useless as opposed to win vista or
win 7.. There are many free firewalls that work well with xp (comodo and
zonealarm to name 2)

http://personalfirewall.comodo.com/
http://download.cnet.com/ZoneAlarm/3...-10039884.html



"Paul Calcagno" wrote in message
...
Do you happen do know the command for the Advanced Firewall settings in
Win XP. I tried `wf.msc' on my wife's WinXP computer and it doesn't work.
Paul C.

"Ǝиçεl" wrote in message
...
Hello Paul,

"Do not use more than one firewall, 2 or more is a sure way to hit
trouble,
just as with AntiViru's."


The built-in Windows firewall is just as good as
any third-party firewall.

There are two interfaces for Vistas built-in firewall:

1) A simplified one accessed through the Control Panel that is the only
one most people see.

2) And the more advanced "Windows Firewall with Advanced Security
(WF.msc)," accessed via the Start Menu's Administrative Tools folder,
for the experienced user who wants better control.
-=-


http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/security/internet/sp2_wfintro.mspx


http://www.microsoft.com/security/firewalls/faq.aspx
-=-


"Paul Calcagno" wrote:

I'm running Vista Home Premium SP2, 2 GB RAM, SAS, MBAM, CA (California
Associates) AV (e-mail scanning disabled); Avira AV/Update scheduler,
CCleaner, and Windows Firewall, WLM on an Acer Aspire Desktop machine.

The system is running just great, however, I've always wondered why I
need
both the CA and the Windows firewall running at the same time. In CA I
can
create a list of website that are allowed thru the firewall, but I'm not
sure if I can do that with Windows firewall.

Is it OK to disable the CA firewall permanently? Is there a way to
specify
what is allowed thru the Windows firewall. And lastly, should I just
uninstall the whole CA suite altogether?

Thanks in advance..........Paul C.


.

  #14 (permalink)  
Old March 8th 10, 01:42 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Paul Calcagno
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Posts: 172
Default Multiple Firewalls

Drew, any more detail as to why WinXP firewall is so useless? Paul C.

"Drew" wrote in message
...
The built in firewall in xp is worse than useless as opposed to win vista
or win 7.. There are many free firewalls that work well with xp (comodo
and zonealarm to name 2)

http://personalfirewall.comodo.com/
http://download.cnet.com/ZoneAlarm/3...-10039884.html



"Paul Calcagno" wrote in message
...
Do you happen do know the command for the Advanced Firewall settings in
Win XP. I tried `wf.msc' on my wife's WinXP computer and it doesn't
work. Paul C.

"Ǝиçεl" wrote in message
...
Hello Paul,

"Do not use more than one firewall, 2 or more is a sure way to hit
trouble,
just as with AntiViru's."


The built-in Windows firewall is just as good as
any third-party firewall.

There are two interfaces for Vistas built-in firewall:

1) A simplified one accessed through the Control Panel that is the only
one most people see.

2) And the more advanced "Windows Firewall with Advanced Security
(WF.msc)," accessed via the Start Menu's Administrative Tools folder,
for the experienced user who wants better control.
-=-


http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/security/internet/sp2_wfintro.mspx


http://www.microsoft.com/security/firewalls/faq.aspx
-=-


"Paul Calcagno" wrote:

I'm running Vista Home Premium SP2, 2 GB RAM, SAS, MBAM, CA (California
Associates) AV (e-mail scanning disabled); Avira AV/Update scheduler,
CCleaner, and Windows Firewall, WLM on an Acer Aspire Desktop machine.

The system is running just great, however, I've always wondered why I
need
both the CA and the Windows firewall running at the same time. In CA I
can
create a list of website that are allowed thru the firewall, but I'm
not
sure if I can do that with Windows firewall.

Is it OK to disable the CA firewall permanently? Is there a way to
specify
what is allowed thru the Windows firewall. And lastly, should I just
uninstall the whole CA suite altogether?

Thanks in advance..........Paul C.


.

  #15 (permalink)  
Old March 8th 10, 01:42 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Paul Calcagno
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 172
Default Multiple Firewalls

Drew, any more detail as to why WinXP firewall is so useless? Paul C.

"Drew" wrote in message
...
The built in firewall in xp is worse than useless as opposed to win vista
or win 7.. There are many free firewalls that work well with xp (comodo
and zonealarm to name 2)

http://personalfirewall.comodo.com/
http://download.cnet.com/ZoneAlarm/3...-10039884.html



"Paul Calcagno" wrote in message
...
Do you happen do know the command for the Advanced Firewall settings in
Win XP. I tried `wf.msc' on my wife's WinXP computer and it doesn't
work. Paul C.

"Ǝиçεl" wrote in message
...
Hello Paul,

"Do not use more than one firewall, 2 or more is a sure way to hit
trouble,
just as with AntiViru's."


The built-in Windows firewall is just as good as
any third-party firewall.

There are two interfaces for Vistas built-in firewall:

1) A simplified one accessed through the Control Panel that is the only
one most people see.

2) And the more advanced "Windows Firewall with Advanced Security
(WF.msc)," accessed via the Start Menu's Administrative Tools folder,
for the experienced user who wants better control.
-=-


http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/security/internet/sp2_wfintro.mspx


http://www.microsoft.com/security/firewalls/faq.aspx
-=-


"Paul Calcagno" wrote:

I'm running Vista Home Premium SP2, 2 GB RAM, SAS, MBAM, CA (California
Associates) AV (e-mail scanning disabled); Avira AV/Update scheduler,
CCleaner, and Windows Firewall, WLM on an Acer Aspire Desktop machine.

The system is running just great, however, I've always wondered why I
need
both the CA and the Windows firewall running at the same time. In CA I
can
create a list of website that are allowed thru the firewall, but I'm
not
sure if I can do that with Windows firewall.

Is it OK to disable the CA firewall permanently? Is there a way to
specify
what is allowed thru the Windows firewall. And lastly, should I just
uninstall the whole CA suite altogether?

Thanks in advance..........Paul C.


.

  #16 (permalink)  
Old March 8th 10, 05:44 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Ken Blake, MVP
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Posts: 2,308
Default Multiple Firewalls

On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 09:42:05 -0500, "Paul Calcagno"
wrote:

Drew, any more detail as to why WinXP firewall is so useless? Paul C.



Just to give you another point of view, I, and many others, disagree
that it's useless. I think it's fine.

I used to be convinced that the XP firewall was greatly inferior to
third-party ones because the XP firewall monitors incoming traffic,
but does nothing to stop spyware programs trying to call home. I no
longer feel that way. Although there's truth in that statement, from a
practical standpoint it doesn't matter. Once the spyware program has
infected you, it can get around restrictions on trying to call home
anyway.


"Drew" wrote in message
...
The built in firewall in xp is worse than useless as opposed to win vista
or win 7.. There are many free firewalls that work well with xp (comodo
and zonealarm to name 2)

http://personalfirewall.comodo.com/
http://download.cnet.com/ZoneAlarm/3...-10039884.html



"Paul Calcagno" wrote in message
...
Do you happen do know the command for the Advanced Firewall settings in
Win XP. I tried `wf.msc' on my wife's WinXP computer and it doesn't
work. Paul C.

"??ç?l" wrote in message
...
Hello Paul,

"Do not use more than one firewall, 2 or more is a sure way to hit
trouble,
just as with AntiViru's."


The built-in Windows firewall is just as good as
any third-party firewall.

There are two interfaces for Vistas built-in firewall:

1) A simplified one accessed through the Control Panel that is the only
one most people see.

2) And the more advanced "Windows Firewall with Advanced Security
(WF.msc)," accessed via the Start Menu's Administrative Tools folder,
for the experienced user who wants better control.
-=-


http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/security/internet/sp2_wfintro.mspx


http://www.microsoft.com/security/firewalls/faq.aspx
-=-


"Paul Calcagno" wrote:

I'm running Vista Home Premium SP2, 2 GB RAM, SAS, MBAM, CA (California
Associates) AV (e-mail scanning disabled); Avira AV/Update scheduler,
CCleaner, and Windows Firewall, WLM on an Acer Aspire Desktop machine.

The system is running just great, however, I've always wondered why I
need
both the CA and the Windows firewall running at the same time. In CA I
can
create a list of website that are allowed thru the firewall, but I'm
not
sure if I can do that with Windows firewall.

Is it OK to disable the CA firewall permanently? Is there a way to
specify
what is allowed thru the Windows firewall. And lastly, should I just
uninstall the whole CA suite altogether?

Thanks in advance..........Paul C.


.


--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
  #17 (permalink)  
Old March 8th 10, 05:44 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Ken Blake, MVP
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,308
Default Multiple Firewalls


On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 09:42:05 -0500, "Paul Calcagno"
wrote:

Drew, any more detail as to why WinXP firewall is so useless? Paul C.



Just to give you another point of view, I, and many others, disagree
that it's useless. I think it's fine.

I used to be convinced that the XP firewall was greatly inferior to
third-party ones because the XP firewall monitors incoming traffic,
but does nothing to stop spyware programs trying to call home. I no
longer feel that way. Although there's truth in that statement, from a
practical standpoint it doesn't matter. Once the spyware program has
infected you, it can get around restrictions on trying to call home
anyway.


"Drew" wrote in message
...
The built in firewall in xp is worse than useless as opposed to win vista
or win 7.. There are many free firewalls that work well with xp (comodo
and zonealarm to name 2)

http://personalfirewall.comodo.com/
http://download.cnet.com/ZoneAlarm/3...-10039884.html



"Paul Calcagno" wrote in message
...
Do you happen do know the command for the Advanced Firewall settings in
Win XP. I tried `wf.msc' on my wife's WinXP computer and it doesn't
work. Paul C.

"??ç?l" wrote in message
...
Hello Paul,

"Do not use more than one firewall, 2 or more is a sure way to hit
trouble,
just as with AntiViru's."


The built-in Windows firewall is just as good as
any third-party firewall.

There are two interfaces for Vistas built-in firewall:

1) A simplified one accessed through the Control Panel that is the only
one most people see.

2) And the more advanced "Windows Firewall with Advanced Security
(WF.msc)," accessed via the Start Menu's Administrative Tools folder,
for the experienced user who wants better control.
-=-


http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/security/internet/sp2_wfintro.mspx


http://www.microsoft.com/security/firewalls/faq.aspx
-=-


"Paul Calcagno" wrote:

I'm running Vista Home Premium SP2, 2 GB RAM, SAS, MBAM, CA (California
Associates) AV (e-mail scanning disabled); Avira AV/Update scheduler,
CCleaner, and Windows Firewall, WLM on an Acer Aspire Desktop machine.

The system is running just great, however, I've always wondered why I
need
both the CA and the Windows firewall running at the same time. In CA I
can
create a list of website that are allowed thru the firewall, but I'm
not
sure if I can do that with Windows firewall.

Is it OK to disable the CA firewall permanently? Is there a way to
specify
what is allowed thru the Windows firewall. And lastly, should I just
uninstall the whole CA suite altogether?

Thanks in advance..........Paul C.


.


--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
  #18 (permalink)  
Old March 8th 10, 05:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Drew[_6_]
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Posts: 76
Default Multiple Firewalls

Personally I never used it.. If you google win xp firewall you will probably
find gazillions of hits on it though. Probably most of the reasons why
Microsoft produced so many service packs and patches for win xp was due to
its security problems.

"Paul Calcagno" wrote in message
...
Drew, any more detail as to why WinXP firewall is so useless? Paul C.

"Drew" wrote in message
...
The built in firewall in xp is worse than useless as opposed to win vista
or win 7.. There are many free firewalls that work well with xp (comodo
and zonealarm to name 2)

http://personalfirewall.comodo.com/
http://download.cnet.com/ZoneAlarm/3...-10039884.html



"Paul Calcagno" wrote in message
...
Do you happen do know the command for the Advanced Firewall settings in
Win XP. I tried `wf.msc' on my wife's WinXP computer and it doesn't
work. Paul C.

"Ǝиçεl" wrote in message
...
Hello Paul,

"Do not use more than one firewall, 2 or more is a sure way to hit
trouble,
just as with AntiViru's."


The built-in Windows firewall is just as good as
any third-party firewall.

There are two interfaces for Vistas built-in firewall:

1) A simplified one accessed through the Control Panel that is the only
one most people see.

2) And the more advanced "Windows Firewall with Advanced Security
(WF.msc)," accessed via the Start Menu's Administrative Tools folder,
for the experienced user who wants better control.
-=-


http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/security/internet/sp2_wfintro.mspx


http://www.microsoft.com/security/firewalls/faq.aspx
-=-


"Paul Calcagno" wrote:

I'm running Vista Home Premium SP2, 2 GB RAM, SAS, MBAM, CA
(California
Associates) AV (e-mail scanning disabled); Avira AV/Update scheduler,
CCleaner, and Windows Firewall, WLM on an Acer Aspire Desktop machine.

The system is running just great, however, I've always wondered why I
need
both the CA and the Windows firewall running at the same time. In CA I
can
create a list of website that are allowed thru the firewall, but I'm
not
sure if I can do that with Windows firewall.

Is it OK to disable the CA firewall permanently? Is there a way to
specify
what is allowed thru the Windows firewall. And lastly, should I just
uninstall the whole CA suite altogether?

Thanks in advance..........Paul C.


.

  #19 (permalink)  
Old March 8th 10, 05:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Drew[_6_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 76
Default Multiple Firewalls

Personally I never used it.. If you google win xp firewall you will probably
find gazillions of hits on it though. Probably most of the reasons why
Microsoft produced so many service packs and patches for win xp was due to
its security problems.

"Paul Calcagno" wrote in message
...
Drew, any more detail as to why WinXP firewall is so useless? Paul C.

"Drew" wrote in message
...
The built in firewall in xp is worse than useless as opposed to win vista
or win 7.. There are many free firewalls that work well with xp (comodo
and zonealarm to name 2)

http://personalfirewall.comodo.com/
http://download.cnet.com/ZoneAlarm/3...-10039884.html



"Paul Calcagno" wrote in message
...
Do you happen do know the command for the Advanced Firewall settings in
Win XP. I tried `wf.msc' on my wife's WinXP computer and it doesn't
work. Paul C.

"Ǝиçεl" wrote in message
...
Hello Paul,

"Do not use more than one firewall, 2 or more is a sure way to hit
trouble,
just as with AntiViru's."


The built-in Windows firewall is just as good as
any third-party firewall.

There are two interfaces for Vistas built-in firewall:

1) A simplified one accessed through the Control Panel that is the only
one most people see.

2) And the more advanced "Windows Firewall with Advanced Security
(WF.msc)," accessed via the Start Menu's Administrative Tools folder,
for the experienced user who wants better control.
-=-


http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/security/internet/sp2_wfintro.mspx


http://www.microsoft.com/security/firewalls/faq.aspx
-=-


"Paul Calcagno" wrote:

I'm running Vista Home Premium SP2, 2 GB RAM, SAS, MBAM, CA
(California
Associates) AV (e-mail scanning disabled); Avira AV/Update scheduler,
CCleaner, and Windows Firewall, WLM on an Acer Aspire Desktop machine.

The system is running just great, however, I've always wondered why I
need
both the CA and the Windows firewall running at the same time. In CA I
can
create a list of website that are allowed thru the firewall, but I'm
not
sure if I can do that with Windows firewall.

Is it OK to disable the CA firewall permanently? Is there a way to
specify
what is allowed thru the Windows firewall. And lastly, should I just
uninstall the whole CA suite altogether?

Thanks in advance..........Paul C.


.

  #20 (permalink)  
Old March 12th 10, 08:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Paul Calcagno
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 172
Default Multiple Firewalls

Ken and Drew. Here's my 2 cents about Windows Firewall. I noticed after I
removed my 3rd party firewall (CA Security Suite) that EVERYTHING runs
faster BUT both my Avira and Spyware Doctor are catching lots more junk now
than they ever did. Almost 2-3 infections every day. Does this mean Windows
firewall is not catching stuff as effectively as CA? I don't know. The only
way to tell would be to re-install CA and see if the incident rate drops
again.

Thanks for your thoughts..........Paul C.

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 09:42:05 -0500, "Paul Calcagno"
wrote:

Drew, any more detail as to why WinXP firewall is so useless? Paul C.



Just to give you another point of view, I, and many others, disagree
that it's useless. I think it's fine.

I used to be convinced that the XP firewall was greatly inferior to
third-party ones because the XP firewall monitors incoming traffic,
but does nothing to stop spyware programs trying to call home. I no
longer feel that way. Although there's truth in that statement, from a
practical standpoint it doesn't matter. Once the spyware program has
infected you, it can get around restrictions on trying to call home
anyway.


"Drew" wrote in message
...
The built in firewall in xp is worse than useless as opposed to win
vista
or win 7.. There are many free firewalls that work well with xp
(comodo
and zonealarm to name 2)

http://personalfirewall.comodo.com/
http://download.cnet.com/ZoneAlarm/3...-10039884.html



"Paul Calcagno" wrote in message
...
Do you happen do know the command for the Advanced Firewall settings
in
Win XP. I tried `wf.msc' on my wife's WinXP computer and it doesn't
work. Paul C.

"??ç?l" wrote in message
...
Hello Paul,

"Do not use more than one firewall, 2 or more is a sure way to hit
trouble,
just as with AntiViru's."


The built-in Windows firewall is just as good as
any third-party firewall.

There are two interfaces for Vistas built-in firewall:

1) A simplified one accessed through the Control Panel that is the
only
one most people see.

2) And the more advanced "Windows Firewall with Advanced Security
(WF.msc)," accessed via the Start Menu's Administrative Tools folder,
for the experienced user who wants better control.
-=-


http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/security/internet/sp2_wfintro.mspx


http://www.microsoft.com/security/firewalls/faq.aspx
-=-


"Paul Calcagno" wrote:

I'm running Vista Home Premium SP2, 2 GB RAM, SAS, MBAM, CA
(California
Associates) AV (e-mail scanning disabled); Avira AV/Update
scheduler,
CCleaner, and Windows Firewall, WLM on an Acer Aspire Desktop
machine.

The system is running just great, however, I've always wondered why
I
need
both the CA and the Windows firewall running at the same time. In CA
I
can
create a list of website that are allowed thru the firewall, but I'm
not
sure if I can do that with Windows firewall.

Is it OK to disable the CA firewall permanently? Is there a way to
specify
what is allowed thru the Windows firewall. And lastly, should I
just
uninstall the whole CA suite altogether?

Thanks in advance..........Paul C.


.


--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup


 




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