VISTA RC1 32 Bit / 64 Bit both provide no support for my PCI Video slots on my
Intel® Server Board SE7525RP2. I did a clean install on my 64 bit PC (both
32 bit and 64) using my NVIDIA PNY 7600 GT PCI Express card 2 Gigabytes of
DD2 RAM.
Keep in mind folks that this setup works fine with XP Professional 32 bit
and 64 bit, which I am forced to run as we speak due to VISTA's inability to
assign resources to PCI express slot on my motherboard. When it boots up I
have 4 bit color. When right clicking on my computer the error is: error 12,
'Unable to load drivers, not enough resources to start this device, free up
some resources and try again.' Its not the video card drivers I discovered.
Its The VISTA team who is not providing support for my MB. Its not like I
have oddball hardware here. I am disapointed BIGTIME. If anyone has a
solution, I am listening, but sad. : *(

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Drivers and support for 3rd party hardware is not provided by Microsoft.
The drivers included in Vista were provided by the hardware manufacturers to
Microsoft.

Have you contacted Intel and expressed your desires?

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Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Jon Acord" wrote in message
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VISTA RC1 32 Bit / 64 Bit both provide no support for my PCI Video slots
on my
Intel® Server Board SE7525RP2. I did a clean install on my 64 bit PC (both
32 bit and 64) using my NVIDIA PNY 7600 GT PCI Express card 2 Gigabytes of
DD2 RAM.
Keep in mind folks that this setup works fine with XP Professional 32 bit
and 64 bit, which I am forced to run as we speak due to VISTA's inability
to
assign resources to PCI express slot on my motherboard. When it boots up I
have 4 bit color. When right clicking on my computer the error is: error
12,
'Unable to load drivers, not enough resources to start this device, free
up
some resources and try again.' Its not the video card drivers I
discovered.
Its The VISTA team who is not providing support for my MB. Its not like I
have oddball hardware here. I am disapointed BIGTIME. If anyone has a
solution, I am listening, but sad. : *(

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And what am I supposed to tell Intel? The video card doesn't install? They
will tell me to go to the video card manufacturer.

There are no missing/unrecognized motherboard devices listed in device
manager, nor any errors given while VISTA is installing. The "not enough
resources" message is with the video card and doesn't define what resources
are missing or give any clue how to correct.

The problem is not so much that I expect Microsoft to provide the drivers,
as I expect them to provide error messages that are connected to the correct
problem. In this case, unrecognized motherboard devices, not the video card
that happens to sit in one of those devices.

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote:

Drivers and support for 3rd party hardware is not provided by Microsoft.
The drivers included in Vista were provided by the hardware manufacturers to
Microsoft.

Have you contacted Intel and expressed your desires?

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Jon Acord" wrote in message
...
VISTA RC1 32 Bit / 64 Bit both provide no support for my PCI Video slots
on my
Intel® Server Board SE7525RP2. I did a clean install on my 64 bit PC (both
32 bit and 64) using my NVIDIA PNY 7600 GT PCI Express card 2 Gigabytes of
DD2 RAM.
Keep in mind folks that this setup works fine with XP Professional 32 bit
and 64 bit, which I am forced to run as we speak due to VISTA's inability
to
assign resources to PCI express slot on my motherboard. When it boots up I
have 4 bit color. When right clicking on my computer the error is: error
12,
'Unable to load drivers, not enough resources to start this device, free
up
some resources and try again.' Its not the video card drivers I
discovered.
Its The VISTA team who is not providing support for my MB. Its not like I
have oddball hardware here. I am disapointed BIGTIME. If anyone has a
solution, I am listening, but sad. : *(

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suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
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http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com... dware_devices

You need to contact the video card manufacturer.
What do you tell them? Tell them you want support for their card.
The more people that ask for support, the more likely they will provide it.
Also, the older a piece of hardware is, the less likely anyone is to support
the older hardware.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Jon Acord" wrote in message
...
And what am I supposed to tell Intel? The video card doesn't install?
They
will tell me to go to the video card manufacturer.

There are no missing/unrecognized motherboard devices listed in device
manager, nor any errors given while VISTA is installing. The "not enough
resources" message is with the video card and doesn't define what
resources
are missing or give any clue how to correct.

The problem is not so much that I expect Microsoft to provide the drivers,
as I expect them to provide error messages that are connected to the
correct
problem. In this case, unrecognized motherboard devices, not the video
card
that happens to sit in one of those devices.

We are talking about a PCI Express Nvidia PNY card 7600 here...It is not
outdated.
I haven't seen an operating system perform this way since Windows 3.1,
Windows 95, where IRQ settings had to be put in manually on cards. Keep in
mind I have a degree in computer science. My Job day to day is a system's
Administrator. I am responsible for hundreds of PC's. Trust me, VISTA will be
tretaed as Windows millinium. When I order new machines they will have XP on
them. Again, no support from Microsoft on this...I've filled out bug reports,
called them, all to no avail. I give up.

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote:

You need to contact the video card manufacturer.
What do you tell them? Tell them you want support for their card.
The more people that ask for support, the more likely they will provide it.
Also, the older a piece of hardware is, the less likely anyone is to support
the older hardware.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Jon Acord" wrote in message
...
And what am I supposed to tell Intel? The video card doesn't install?
They
will tell me to go to the video card manufacturer.

There are no missing/unrecognized motherboard devices listed in device
manager, nor any errors given while VISTA is installing. The "not enough
resources" message is with the video card and doesn't define what
resources
are missing or give any clue how to correct.

The problem is not so much that I expect Microsoft to provide the drivers,
as I expect them to provide error messages that are connected to the
correct
problem. In this case, unrecognized motherboard devices, not the video
card
that happens to sit in one of those devices.

But, what has NVIDIA said when you asked them?
Age of the card is irrelevant, support and drivers come from NVIDIA.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Jon Acord" wrote in message
...
We are talking about a PCI Express Nvidia PNY card 7600 here...It is not
outdated.
I haven't seen an operating system perform this way since Windows 3.1,
Windows 95, where IRQ settings had to be put in manually on cards. Keep in
mind I have a degree in computer science. My Job day to day is a system's
Administrator. I am responsible for hundreds of PC's. Trust me, VISTA will
be
tretaed as Windows millinium. When I order new machines they will have XP
on
them. Again, no support from Microsoft on this...I've filled out bug
reports,
called them, all to no avail. I give up.

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote:

You need to contact the video card manufacturer.
What do you tell them? Tell them you want support for their card.
The more people that ask for support, the more likely they will provide
it.
Also, the older a piece of hardware is, the less likely anyone is to
support
the older hardware.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Jon Acord" wrote in message
...
And what am I supposed to tell Intel? The video card doesn't install?
They
will tell me to go to the video card manufacturer.

There are no missing/unrecognized motherboard devices listed in device
manager, nor any errors given while VISTA is installing. The "not
enough
resources" message is with the video card and doesn't define what
resources
are missing or give any clue how to correct.

The problem is not so much that I expect Microsoft to provide the
drivers,
as I expect them to provide error messages that are connected to the
correct
problem. In this case, unrecognized motherboard devices, not the video
card
that happens to sit in one of those devices.

Go read my other thread with the SAME title

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote:

But, what has NVIDIA said when you asked them?
Age of the card is irrelevant, support and drivers come from NVIDIA.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Jon Acord" wrote in message
...
We are talking about a PCI Express Nvidia PNY card 7600 here...It is not
outdated.
I haven't seen an operating system perform this way since Windows 3.1,
Windows 95, where IRQ settings had to be put in manually on cards. Keep in
mind I have a degree in computer science. My Job day to day is a system's
Administrator. I am responsible for hundreds of PC's. Trust me, VISTA will
be
tretaed as Windows millinium. When I order new machines they will have XP
on
them. Again, no support from Microsoft on this...I've filled out bug
reports,
called them, all to no avail. I give up.

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote:

You need to contact the video card manufacturer.
What do you tell them? Tell them you want support for their card.
The more people that ask for support, the more likely they will provide
it.
Also, the older a piece of hardware is, the less likely anyone is to
support
the older hardware.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Jon Acord" wrote in message
...
And what am I supposed to tell Intel? The video card doesn't install?
They
will tell me to go to the video card manufacturer.

There are no missing/unrecognized motherboard devices listed in device
manager, nor any errors given while VISTA is installing. The "not
enough
resources" message is with the video card and doesn't define what
resources
are missing or give any clue how to correct.

The problem is not so much that I expect Microsoft to provide the
drivers,
as I expect them to provide error messages that are connected to the
correct
problem. In this case, unrecognized motherboard devices, not the video
card
that happens to sit in one of those devices.

"VISTA's inability to assign resources to PCI express slot on my
motherboard"
That is a relatively clear message about the source of the issue, Intel or
NVIDIA.
If it is not the video card, it is the motherboard.
In either case, Intel or NVIDIA.

Two points:
1. You do not help by starting two threads.
2. You give no indication you have contacted any of the hardware
manufacturers involved, Intel or NVIDIA.

Since it seems to be a hardware issue, that is where you should start as has
already been said.

Also I would have performed a Clean Installation long ago to verify the
issue.
I do just that with Vista before I search for solutions elsewhere.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Jon Acord" wrote in message
...
Go read my other thread with the SAME title

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote:

But, what has NVIDIA said when you asked them?
Age of the card is irrelevant, support and drivers come from NVIDIA.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org

'You do not help by starting 2 threads' you stated. Answer: The page gave me
errors and informed it did not post: I was unaware that it had accepted the
first one. The point you seem to be missing is Vista's inability to give an
error message in a clear manner. I contacted intel: A technical support
representative stated that it was Vista's inability to assign and handle the
drivers. As far as nvidia I downloaded and had tried the latest drivers. Same
error; their technical support also laid the blame on the poor design of
Vista: its apparent inability to manage the hardware and software. and yes,
I've tried a clean install twice. With the 32 bit version and the 64 bit
version to no avail. I suppose I'll have to wait until enough people
complain. An article appeared in info World magazine today: it was called and
i quote' 'Twisted Vista'. Lots and lots of people are having problems with
Nvidia cards and vista. I am Not the only one.

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote:

"VISTA's inability to assign resources to PCI express slot on my
motherboard"
That is a relatively clear message about the source of the issue, Intel or
NVIDIA.
If it is not the video card, it is the motherboard.
In either case, Intel or NVIDIA.

Two points:
1. You do not help by starting two threads.
2. You give no indication you have contacted any of the hardware
manufacturers involved, Intel or NVIDIA.

Since it seems to be a hardware issue, that is where you should start as has
already been said.

Also I would have performed a Clean Installation long ago to verify the
issue.
I do just that with Vista before I search for solutions elsewhere.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Jon Acord" wrote in message
...
Go read my other thread with the SAME title

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote:

But, what has NVIDIA said when you asked them?
Age of the card is irrelevant, support and drivers come from NVIDIA.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org

The error is clear enough to narrow down to one of two pieces of hardware,
video card and motherboard.
Perhaps it could be better, or perhaps that is as close as it can get
considering the close relation between the card and motherboard.

A great many are not having trouble with NVIDIA and I am one of those.
Vistas inability to use 3rd party hardware is related to the 3rd party not
providing support.

"I contacted intel: A technical support representative stated that..."
So what does Intel's website say about that motherboard and Vista?
What does the Vista Upgrade Advisor have to say about the Intel motherboard?
Has Intel updated that boards BIOS for Vista?
Are the boards chipset drivers etc designed for Vista?

Vista compatibility is a long chain, any weak link in the hardware can cause
your issues.
Vista has narrowed it down seemingly to the motherboard and video.
It is up to the hardware manufacturers to make the final step for
compatibility..

Vista is a Beta which really means nothing is guaranteed.
Of course you have appropriately bugged this to Microsoft as well as
formally reporting this to NVIDIA and Intel.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Jon Acord" wrote in message
...
'You do not help by starting 2 threads' you stated. Answer: The page gave
me
errors and informed it did not post: I was unaware that it had accepted
the
first one. The point you seem to be missing is Vista's inability to give
an
error message in a clear manner. I contacted intel: A technical support
representative stated that it was Vista's inability to assign and handle
the
drivers. As far as nvidia I downloaded and had tried the latest drivers.
Same
error; their technical support also laid the blame on the poor design of
Vista: its apparent inability to manage the hardware and software. and
yes,
I've tried a clean install twice. With the 32 bit version and the 64 bit
version to no avail. I suppose I'll have to wait until enough people
complain. An article appeared in info World magazine today: it was called
and
i quote' 'Twisted Vista'. Lots and lots of people are having problems with
Nvidia cards and vista. I am Not the only one.

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote:

"VISTA's inability to assign resources to PCI express slot on my
motherboard"
That is a relatively clear message about the source of the issue, Intel
or
NVIDIA.
If it is not the video card, it is the motherboard.
In either case, Intel or NVIDIA.

Two points:
1. You do not help by starting two threads.
2. You give no indication you have contacted any of the hardware
manufacturers involved, Intel or NVIDIA.

Since it seems to be a hardware issue, that is where you should start as
has
already been said.

Also I would have performed a Clean Installation long ago to verify the
issue.
I do just that with Vista before I search for solutions elsewhere.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Jon Acord" wrote in message
...
Go read my other thread with the SAME title

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote:

But, what has NVIDIA said when you asked them?
Age of the card is irrelevant, support and drivers come from NVIDIA.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org