William

Find another computer store.

Windows has NO native av protection. Use AVG or Avast free versions, or if
you don't mind paying, NOD32 is good.

Avoid any solution from Symantec or McAfee..


"William F. Welner" wrote in message
...
Does one have to purchase a separate anti Virus program for Windows Vista?

The Computer Shop that sold me my new PC told me that Virus protection is
provided as part of Windows Vista.

Immediately turned the PC on I received a message recommending that I
purchase an anti Virus program.

I am confused. Please provided me advice on the Anti Virus issue.

Bill Welner

On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 21:22:37 -0700, munchie wrote:

On Sep 29, 11:43 am, "Ken Blake, MVP"
wrote:
On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 09:32:42 -0400, "William F. Welner"

wrote:
Does one have to purchase a separate anti Virus program for Windows Vista?

The Computer Shop that sold me my new PC told me that Virus protection is
provided as part of Windows Vista.

Immediately turned the PC on I received a message recommending that I
purchase an anti Virus program.

I am confused. Please provided me advice on the Anti Virus issue.

You got bad information from the computer shop. No version of Windows
has ever come with Virus protection.

Unfortunately, getting misinformation from clerks in stores selling
computers is common, especially if the stores are of the big chain
variety--BestBuy, Circuit City, CompUSA, etc. Most of these places
choose the people they hire based on their willingness to accept
something close to minimum wage, not based on their skills. If these
people knew anything, almost certainly they could get a better
job.

However, you can download and install excellent freeware antivirus
software. I recommend Avast! athttp://www.avast.com/

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

As someone who works at one of those "big computer shops", I'd like to
say that some of us do the job because we genuinely like talking-to
and education people.


I certainly don't suggest that no employee of such a store knows
anything. My point is rather that few of them do, and therefore
relying on what you are told there is foolhardy. If you are an
exception, I'm glad to hear it.



You can run many antispyware programs if you desire, but stay away
from running multiple antivirus programs. They'll eat eachother
alive!


No, there's nothing wrong with installing and even running multiple
anti-virus programs. What you should not do is run them
*simultaneously*.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 09:58:13 -0500, Maurice N ~ MVP wrote:

May I personnaly suggest you NOT get AVG antivirus (the free edition).

Why? It tests well.

--
Chris Game

To iterate is human; to recurse, divine.

In article ,
says...
On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 09:58:13 -0500, Maurice N ~ MVP wrote:

May I personnaly suggest you NOT get AVG antivirus (the free edition).

Why? It tests well.

Every computer that we've seen using AVG in a couple Sororities was
compromised while running updated and properly installed AVG. Only the
MAC, PC's with Symantec Corporate Edition and one with Computer Assoc AV
software have remained uncompromised over the last 3 years.

--

Leythos
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
(remove 999 for proper email address)

I've seen too many cases of infected systems that had AVG AV (free edition). It's a case of you get what you pay for and of other products being more effective and sturdy.
--
Maurice N
MS-MVP (Windows Client)
-----

"Chris Game" wrote
On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 09:58:13 -0500, Maurice N ~ MVP wrote:

May I personnaly suggest you NOT get AVG antivirus (the free edition).

Why? It tests well.

--
Chris Game

To iterate is human; to recurse, divine.

"William F. Welner" wrote:

Does one have to purchase a separate anti Virus program for Windows Vista?

The Computer Shop that sold me my new PC told me that Virus protection is
provided as part of Windows Vista.

Immediately turned the PC on I received a message recommending that I
purchase an anti Virus program.

I am confused. Please provided me advice on the Anti Virus issue.

Bill Welner


I just got my computer from BestBuy. They installed TrendMicro Anti-Virus.
It was humming along just fine. Suddenly, this morning, the Security Center
says it can't find my anti-virus program. TrendMicro is definitely running.
Can you help me understand what is going on? How can I convince Vista
Security Center that TrendMicro is running and that I want it to monitor this
anti-virus program? Thanks!

"S. Viatoris" wrote in message
...


"William F. Welner" wrote:

Does one have to purchase a separate anti Virus program for Windows
Vista?

The Computer Shop that sold me my new PC told me that Virus protection is
provided as part of Windows Vista.

Immediately turned the PC on I received a message recommending that I
purchase an anti Virus program.

I am confused. Please provided me advice on the Anti Virus issue.

Bill Welner


I just got my computer from BestBuy. They installed TrendMicro
Anti-Virus.
It was humming along just fine. Suddenly, this morning, the Security
Center
says it can't find my anti-virus program. TrendMicro is definitely
running.
Can you help me understand what is going on? How can I convince Vista
Security Center that TrendMicro is running and that I want it to monitor
this
anti-virus program? Thanks!


And how is that related to the post to which you replied?
Please start a new thread for a new problem.
Thank you.

Just for the record, I've gotten some very good information from some of the
clerks I've dealt with at BestBuy and CompUSA along with some bad information
from others at the same places. I've found it really to be no different than
the ratio at places hiring "only the best". Some of the worst information
I've seen spread around has come from the so-called and sometimes self-called
experts on internet forums. Of course some of the best information comes
from those sources as well. I'm sure you would like to consider yourself
among that latter group, so I might offer a suggestion that you be a bit more
careful with such comments in the future. While your own sample may be
skewed in the direction you indicated, it can be, at best, only a
representation of a tiny subset of all the many fine folks who are working in
those positions without the arrogance it perhaps requires to be an internet
forum "expert". Thanks.

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

Unfortunately, getting misinformation from clerks in stores selling
computers is common, especially if the stores are of the big chain
variety--BestBuy, Circuit City, CompUSA, etc. Most of these places
choose the people they hire based on their willingness to accept
something close to minimum wage, not based on their skills. If these
people knew anything, almost certainly they could get a better
job.
--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User

The difference?
In a commercial venue - you should expect a "professional" would know what
he or she is taking about.
For Free - well, free advice comes with a built in caution. Common sense
dictates that, generally, you get what you pay for. When dealing with a
forum, you learn who gives good advice, who doesn't - eventually you learn
to read, research old posts ad archives, even wait a day or two giving many
people a chance to offer a solution before trying to act on the advice.
Matter of fact, it would be better to even research the advice for yourself
after you find a likely solution/answer.

No doubt there are questionable replies to messages on forums. You can not
expect a warranty for "free" information. I find it strange when someone
posts to a forum/BBS...usually because they do not want to spend the money
to hire a consultant/professional or are the end result of proof that the
"peter principle" is still alive and well.

My way of thinking about forums is much like using a library or dictionary
in particular. You have to know a little bit about the subject before you
try to use them. If you know nothing - then hire a professional.


"gullette" wrote in message
news
Just for the record, I've gotten some very good information from some of
the
clerks I've dealt with at BestBuy and CompUSA along with some bad
information
from others at the same places. I've found it really to be no different
than
the ratio at places hiring "only the best". Some of the worst information
I've seen spread around has come from the so-called and sometimes
self-called
experts on internet forums. Of course some of the best information comes
from those sources as well. I'm sure you would like to consider yourself
among that latter group, so I might offer a suggestion that you be a bit
more
careful with such comments in the future. While your own sample may be
skewed in the direction you indicated, it can be, at best, only a
representation of a tiny subset of all the many fine folks who are working
in
those positions without the arrogance it perhaps requires to be an
internet
forum "expert". Thanks.

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

Unfortunately, getting misinformation from clerks in stores selling
computers is common, especially if the stores are of the big chain
variety--BestBuy, Circuit City, CompUSA, etc. Most of these places
choose the people they hire based on their willingness to accept
something close to minimum wage, not based on their skills. If these
people knew anything, almost certainly they could get a better
job.
--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User

Answering questions on a forum is all too often limited by the lack of
information the OP provides. Even worse, more often than not, what is listed
as the problem often has nothing at all to do with the root problem.

The arrogance is usually on the part of the OP, he or she wrongly assumes
that solutions are nothing more than pushing a few buttons. Much of the
'problem', as I see it is Microsoft has done such a good job - with
automatic installation, default configurations, developed wizards for most
everything...that totally unqualified people are in positions way above
their skill levels.

Agreed, we all had to learn somewhere, but you don't learn, on a production
system, at the expense of your employer. Combined that with common
reluctance to actually read a manual once in a while and you get a pretty
good idea of the quality of the questions that permeate the board. Very
seldom do you see a really interesting problem, presented in a way that
doesn't require 3 more messages just to detail what the real problem is.
That is what worth the time of experts, the very people you choose to
disparage.

The rest of the us, including my meager efforts, answer questions because we
hope, one day, someone will return the favor when we are at a loss.


"gullette" wrote in message
news
Just for the record, I've gotten some very good information from some of
the
clerks I've dealt with at BestBuy and CompUSA along with some bad
information
from others at the same places. I've found it really to be no different
than
the ratio at places hiring "only the best". Some of the worst information
I've seen spread around has come from the so-called and sometimes
self-called
experts on internet forums. Of course some of the best information comes
from those sources as well. I'm sure you would like to consider yourself
among that latter group, so I might offer a suggestion that you be a bit
more
careful with such comments in the future. While your own sample may be
skewed in the direction you indicated, it can be, at best, only a
representation of a tiny subset of all the many fine folks who are working
in
those positions without the arrogance it perhaps requires to be an
internet
forum "expert". Thanks.

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

Unfortunately, getting misinformation from clerks in stores selling
computers is common, especially if the stores are of the big chain
variety--BestBuy, Circuit City, CompUSA, etc. Most of these places
choose the people they hire based on their willingness to accept
something close to minimum wage, not based on their skills. If these
people knew anything, almost certainly they could get a better
job.
--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User