I'm running RC2-5744. Yesterday morning, I was able to play DVDs. As of
yesterday afternoon, no videos (including the default ones - like 'Apollo
13') will play under Windows Media Center. They all give the message:

Decoder Error.

Is this a feature under RC2 that has 'expired'? If so, is there some
indication of that in any of the system logs?

Are there any other features that are just going to disappear without notice?

You got it. RC2 expired the required decoders without notification or even
disclosure that those decoders would expire before the rest of the RC.
Since this portion of Windows Vista was developed by the Windows Media
Player product team who admittedly do not want to hear anything their
customers have to say, it is no surprise that they're not going to tell
their customers anything the customers should have known either.

Dale

"Technology Guy" wrote in message
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I'm running RC2-5744. Yesterday morning, I was able to play DVDs. As of
yesterday afternoon, no videos (including the default ones - like 'Apollo
13') will play under Windows Media Center. They all give the message:

Decoder Error.

Is this a feature under RC2 that has 'expired'? If so, is there some
indication of that in any of the system logs?

Are there any other features that are just going to disappear without
notice?

Wow - that's pretty lame. Are you aware of other stuff that's just going
to stop functioning?

It seems strange, if RC2 just stopped allowing ALL its users to play DVDs,
then why is my message the 1st (and only) message about it? You'd think
there would be 100s of other people posting the same...

"Dale" wrote:

You got it. RC2 expired the required decoders without notification or even
disclosure that those decoders would expire before the rest of the RC.
Since this portion of Windows Vista was developed by the Windows Media
Player product team who admittedly do not want to hear anything their
customers have to say, it is no surprise that they're not going to tell
their customers anything the customers should have known either.

Dale

"Technology Guy" wrote in message
...
I'm running RC2-5744. Yesterday morning, I was able to play DVDs. As of
yesterday afternoon, no videos (including the default ones - like 'Apollo
13') will play under Windows Media Center. They all give the message:

Decoder Error.

Is this a feature under RC2 that has 'expired'? If so, is there some
indication of that in any of the system logs?

Are there any other features that are just going to disappear without
notice?

There have been a lot of messages in the Media Player newsgroups - not
hundreds, but a dozen or two, including quotes from Microsoft to CNET on the
subject - quotes of them blowing it off as no big deal.

Dale

"Technology Guy" wrote in message
...
Wow - that's pretty lame. Are you aware of other stuff that's just
going
to stop functioning?

It seems strange, if RC2 just stopped allowing ALL its users to play DVDs,
then why is my message the 1st (and only) message about it? You'd think
there would be 100s of other people posting the same...

"Dale" wrote:

You got it. RC2 expired the required decoders without notification or
even
disclosure that those decoders would expire before the rest of the RC.
Since this portion of Windows Vista was developed by the Windows Media
Player product team who admittedly do not want to hear anything their
customers have to say, it is no surprise that they're not going to tell
their customers anything the customers should have known either.

Dale

"Technology Guy" wrote in
message
...
I'm running RC2-5744. Yesterday morning, I was able to play DVDs. As
of
yesterday afternoon, no videos (including the default ones - like
'Apollo
13') will play under Windows Media Center. They all give the message:

Decoder Error.

Is this a feature under RC2 that has 'expired'? If so, is there some
indication of that in any of the system logs?

Are there any other features that are just going to disappear without
notice?

Not for RC2 (unless I'm missing something obvious - which I might be doing


Are you aware of any other ones for RC2?

"Dale" wrote:

There have been a lot of messages in the Media Player newsgroups - not
hundreds, but a dozen or two, including quotes from Microsoft to CNET on the
subject - quotes of them blowing it off as no big deal.

Dale

"Technology Guy" wrote in message
...
Wow - that's pretty lame. Are you aware of other stuff that's just
going
to stop functioning?

It seems strange, if RC2 just stopped allowing ALL its users to play DVDs,
then why is my message the 1st (and only) message about it? You'd think
there would be 100s of other people posting the same...

"Dale" wrote:

You got it. RC2 expired the required decoders without notification or
even
disclosure that those decoders would expire before the rest of the RC.
Since this portion of Windows Vista was developed by the Windows Media
Player product team who admittedly do not want to hear anything their
customers have to say, it is no surprise that they're not going to tell
their customers anything the customers should have known either.

Dale

"Technology Guy" wrote in
message
...
I'm running RC2-5744. Yesterday morning, I was able to play DVDs. As
of
yesterday afternoon, no videos (including the default ones - like
'Apollo
13') will play under Windows Media Center. They all give the message:

Decoder Error.

Is this a feature under RC2 that has 'expired'? If so, is there some
indication of that in any of the system logs?

Are there any other features that are just going to disappear without
notice?

Nevermind - I found a (rapidly growing) string in another place. I added a
note to it.

Back in September, somebody from MS posted "Codecs in the final Vista
release would not have such an expiration."

This information appears to be incorrect. As such, I would expect at least
a comment by MS updaing us on what happenend and why...



"Technology Guy" wrote:

Not for RC2 (unless I'm missing something obvious - which I might be doing


Are you aware of any other ones for RC2?

"Dale" wrote:

There have been a lot of messages in the Media Player newsgroups - not
hundreds, but a dozen or two, including quotes from Microsoft to CNET on the
subject - quotes of them blowing it off as no big deal.

Dale

"Technology Guy" wrote in message
...
Wow - that's pretty lame. Are you aware of other stuff that's just
going
to stop functioning?

It seems strange, if RC2 just stopped allowing ALL its users to play DVDs,
then why is my message the 1st (and only) message about it? You'd think
there would be 100s of other people posting the same...

"Dale" wrote:

You got it. RC2 expired the required decoders without notification or
even
disclosure that those decoders would expire before the rest of the RC.
Since this portion of Windows Vista was developed by the Windows Media
Player product team who admittedly do not want to hear anything their
customers have to say, it is no surprise that they're not going to tell
their customers anything the customers should have known either.

Dale

"Technology Guy" wrote in
message
...
I'm running RC2-5744. Yesterday morning, I was able to play DVDs. As
of
yesterday afternoon, no videos (including the default ones - like
'Apollo
13') will play under Windows Media Center. They all give the message:

Decoder Error.

Is this a feature under RC2 that has 'expired'? If so, is there some
indication of that in any of the system logs?

Are there any other features that are just going to disappear without
notice?

Yes, I saw your post in the other group. Like I said, there was a Microsoft
statement about it posted in one of the groups yesterday or the day before.
If I remember correctly, the statement was quoted from CNET.com so you might
try there too if you just want to hear Microsoft's excuses. Otherwise, your
only option is to install XP or wait until you can install RTM in a few
weeks.


Dale

"Technology Guy" wrote in message
...
Nevermind - I found a (rapidly growing) string in another place. I added
a
note to it.

Back in September, somebody from MS posted "Codecs in the final Vista
release would not have such an expiration."

This information appears to be incorrect. As such, I would expect at
least
a comment by MS updaing us on what happenend and why...



"Technology Guy" wrote:

Not for RC2 (unless I'm missing something obvious - which I might be
doing


Are you aware of any other ones for RC2?

"Dale" wrote:

There have been a lot of messages in the Media Player newsgroups - not
hundreds, but a dozen or two, including quotes from Microsoft to CNET
on the
subject - quotes of them blowing it off as no big deal.

Dale

"Technology Guy" wrote in
message
...
Wow - that's pretty lame. Are you aware of other stuff that's just
going
to stop functioning?

It seems strange, if RC2 just stopped allowing ALL its users to play
DVDs,
then why is my message the 1st (and only) message about it? You'd
think
there would be 100s of other people posting the same...

"Dale" wrote:

You got it. RC2 expired the required decoders without notification
or
even
disclosure that those decoders would expire before the rest of the
RC.
Since this portion of Windows Vista was developed by the Windows
Media
Player product team who admittedly do not want to hear anything
their
customers have to say, it is no surprise that they're not going to
tell
their customers anything the customers should have known either.

Dale

"Technology Guy" wrote in
message
...
I'm running RC2-5744. Yesterday morning, I was able to play DVDs.
As
of
yesterday afternoon, no videos (including the default ones - like
'Apollo
13') will play under Windows Media Center. They all give the
message:

Decoder Error.

Is this a feature under RC2 that has 'expired'? If so, is there
some
indication of that in any of the system logs?

Are there any other features that are just going to disappear
without
notice?