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Microsoft Windows Vista includes a two-way firewall. TO THE TOP
Some of us want to choose what "gets out" and what doesn't. And this info
doesn't work since there is nowhere to make such a change in the Windows Firewall window that comes up. Configure it - HOW? Can someone explain how it's configured to actually work without being a programmer writing strange unknown confusing rules for everything that wants to connect to the net? If not, can someone recommend a good free easy to use two-way FireWall like ZoneAlarm that's compatible with Vista? Thanks. http://www.vistastic.com/2007/03/09/...und-filtering/ I bet you didn't know that Microsoft Windows Vista includes a two-way firewall. Unfortunately, the outbound filtering has been disabled. I'm not quite sure why Microsoft made this decision but from a security point of view it would have made perfect sense to have it enabled by default. I suspect it's due to Microsoft not wanting to frustrate customers when their internet dependent applications suddenly stopped working. Windows Vista Firewall: How To Turn On Outbound Filtering * Click the Start Button (Windows Orb) * In the search bar type "wf.msc" and press the Enter key * Click the Windows Firewall Properties link * Change Outbound connections from Allow (default) to Block From the Windows Firewall with Advanced Security properties you can also configure additional rules for incoming as well as outbound connections. |
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Microsoft Windows Vista includes a two-way firewall. TO THE TOP
On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 02:15:33 -0600, I.C. Greenfields wrote:
Some of us want to choose what "gets out" and what doesn't. And this info doesn't work since there is nowhere to make such a change in the Windows Firewall window that comes up. Configure it - HOW? Can someone explain how it's configured to actually work without being a programmer writing strange unknown confusing rules for everything that wants to connect to the net? If not, can someone recommend a good free easy to use two-way FireWall like ZoneAlarm that's compatible with Vista? Thanks. http://www.vistastic.com/2007/03/09/...und-filtering/ I bet you didn't know that Microsoft Windows Vista includes a two-way firewall. Unfortunately, the outbound filtering has been disabled. I'm not quite sure why Microsoft made this decision but from a security point of view it would have made perfect sense to have it enabled by default. I suspect it's due to Microsoft not wanting to frustrate customers when their internet dependent applications suddenly stopped working. Windows Vista Firewall: How To Turn On Outbound Filtering * Click the Start Button (Windows Orb) * In the search bar type "wf.msc" and press the Enter key * Click the Windows Firewall Properties link * Change Outbound connections from Allow (default) to Block From the Windows Firewall with Advanced Security properties you can also configure additional rules for incoming as well as outbound connections. You are not going to find anything better than the Vista FW and Vista in itself due to the advanced features the FW and Vista are using. Vista by default contains 82 default filters that prevent 34 services from communicating out other than on a very narrow set of defined ports. PFW Criticism. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persona...all#Criticisms Jesper's Blogs- At Least This Snake Oil Is Free. http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesp...l-is-free.aspx Exploring The Windows Firewall. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/tec...l/default.aspx Tap into the Vista firewall's advanced configuration features http://articles.techrepublic.com.com...7-6098592.html Configure Vista Firewall to support outbound packet filtering http://searchwindowssecurity.techtar...247138,00.html Easy guide to make Windows Firewall better in Windows Vista. http://www.expertvista.com/2009/01/0...dows-firewall/ SolutionBase: Take a look at the Windows Vista Firewall http://articles.techrepublic.com.com...tag=rbxccnbtr1 Windows Firewall: the best new security feature in Vista? http://blogs.technet.com/jesper_joha...01/426921.aspx Managing the Windows Vista Firewall http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/m.../cc510323.aspx *(read twice!)* Vista Firewall Control (Free versions available). Protects your applications from undesirable network incoming and outgoing activity, controls applications internet access. http://sphinx-soft.com/Vista/ The free version may be all you need, check the comparisons under the "Download and Buy" link. |
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Microsoft Windows Vista includes a two-way firewall. TO THE TOP
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Microsoft Windows Vista includes a two-way firewall. TO THE TOP
"I.C. Greenfields" wrote Some of us want to choose what "gets out" and what doesn't. And this info doesn't work since there is nowhere to make such a change in the Windows Firewall window that comes up. Configure it - HOW? Can someone explain how it's configured to actually work without being a programmer writing strange unknown confusing rules for everything that wants to connect to the net? If not, can someone recommend a good free easy to use two-way FireWall like ZoneAlarm that's compatible with Vista? Thanks. http://www.vistastic.com/2007/03/09/...und-filtering/ I bet you didn't know that Microsoft Windows Vista includes a two-way firewall. Unfortunately, the outbound filtering has been disabled. I'm not quite sure why Microsoft made this decision but from a security point of view it would have made perfect sense to have it enabled by default. I suspect it's due to Microsoft not wanting to frustrate customers when their internet dependent applications suddenly stopped working. Windows Vista Firewall: How To Turn On Outbound Filtering * Click the Start Button (Windows Orb) * In the search bar type "wf.msc" and press the Enter key * Click the Windows Firewall Properties link * Change Outbound connections from Allow (default) to Block From the Windows Firewall with Advanced Security properties you can also configure additional rules for incoming as well as outbound connections. Check this http://www.sphinx-soft.com/Vista/index.html Q |
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Microsoft Windows Vista includes a two-way firewall. TO THE TOP
"I.C. Greenfields" wrote in message ... Some of us want to choose what "gets out" and what doesn't. And this info doesn't work since there is nowhere to make such a change in the Windows Firewall window that comes up. Configure it - HOW? Can someone explain how it's configured to actually work without being a programmer writing strange unknown confusing rules for everything that wants to connect to the net? If not, can someone recommend a good free easy to use two-way FireWall like ZoneAlarm that's compatible with Vista? Thanks. http://www.vistastic.com/2007/03/09/...und-filtering/ I bet you didn't know that Microsoft Windows Vista includes a two-way firewall. Windows Firewall with Advanced Security includes an API that allows services, applications, and installers to write their own ticket through the firewall. In other words, they can add themselves to the exclusions list. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr...53(VS.85).aspx So, it doesn't really do what most people think it does. The key to not having programs make outbound connections, or opening up ports for receiving unsolicited inbound traffic, is to not run those programs on the machine. Third party firewalls don't make it *that* easy - but they don't make it much harder either. They provide the illusion that they can stop outbound traffic. |
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Microsoft Windows Vista includes a two-way firewall. TO THETOP
I.C. Greenfields wrote:
Some of us want to choose what "gets out" and what doesn't. And this info doesn't work since there is nowhere to make such a change in the Windows Firewall window that comes up. Configure it - HOW? Can someone explain how it's configured to actually work without being a programmer writing strange unknown confusing rules for everything that wants to connect to the net? If not, can someone recommend a good free easy to use two-way FireWall like ZoneAlarm that's compatible with Vista? Thanks. http://www.vistastic.com/2007/03/09/...und-filtering/ I bet you didn't know that Microsoft Windows Vista includes a two-way firewall. Unfortunately, the outbound filtering has been disabled. I'm not quite sure why Microsoft made this decision but from a security point of view it would have made perfect sense to have it enabled by default. I suspect it's due to Microsoft not wanting to frustrate customers when their internet dependent applications suddenly stopped working. Windows Vista Firewall: How To Turn On Outbound Filtering * Click the Start Button (Windows Orb) * In the search bar type "wf.msc" and press the Enter key * Click the Windows Firewall Properties link * Change Outbound connections from Allow (default) to Block From the Windows Firewall with Advanced Security properties you can also configure additional rules for incoming as well as outbound connections. MS does not want you to stop them from phoning home. Yet another way for them to prevent you from having control over your own computer. -- "Software is like sex, it's better when it's free." - Linus Torvalds DRM and unintended consequences: http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/se...35&tag=nl.e101 |
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Microsoft Windows Vista includes a two-way firewall. TO THE TOP
"FromTheRafters" wrote in message ... "I.C. Greenfields" wrote in message ... Some of us want to choose what "gets out" and what doesn't. And this info doesn't work since there is nowhere to make such a change in the Windows Firewall window that comes up. Configure it - HOW? Can someone explain how it's configured to actually work without being a programmer writing strange unknown confusing rules for everything that wants to connect to the net? If not, can someone recommend a good free easy to use two-way FireWall like ZoneAlarm that's compatible with Vista? Thanks. http://www.vistastic.com/2007/03/09/...und-filtering/ I bet you didn't know that Microsoft Windows Vista includes a two-way firewall. Windows Firewall with Advanced Security includes an API that allows services, applications, and installers to write their own ticket through the firewall. In other words, they can add themselves to the exclusions list. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr...53(VS.85).aspx So, it doesn't really do what most people think it does. The key to not having programs make outbound connections, or opening up ports for receiving unsolicited inbound traffic, is to not run those programs on the machine. Third party firewalls don't make it *that* easy - but they don't make it much harder either. They provide the illusion that they can stop outbound traffic. Which is why I never use the Windows firewall. Every app thinks they are special and should be able to contact big brother with news about me and retrieve info on things they feel I need. Some companies are especially bad. I know because I don't use Windows firewall so I see the requests and deny them. Over the years it seems to have gotten much worse. -- Richard Mueller MVP Directory Services Hilltop Lab - http://www.rlmueller.net -- |
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Microsoft Windows Vista includes a two-way firewall. TO THETOP
I.C. Greenfields wrote:
Some of us want to choose what "gets out" and what doesn't. And this info doesn't work since there is nowhere to make such a change in the Windows Firewall window that comes up. Configure it - HOW? Can someone explain how it's configured to actually work without being a programmer writing strange unknown confusing rules for everything that wants to connect to the net? If not, can someone recommend a good free easy to use two-way FireWall like ZoneAlarm that's compatible with Vista? Thanks. http://www.vistastic.com/2007/03/09/...und-filtering/ I bet you didn't know that Microsoft Windows Vista includes a two-way firewall. Unfortunately, the outbound filtering has been disabled. I'm not quite sure why Microsoft made this decision but from a security point of view it would have made perfect sense to have it enabled by default. I suspect it's due to Microsoft not wanting to frustrate customers when their internet dependent applications suddenly stopped working. Windows Vista Firewall: How To Turn On Outbound Filtering * Click the Start Button (Windows Orb) * In the search bar type "wf.msc" and press the Enter key * Click the Windows Firewall Properties link * Change Outbound connections from Allow (default) to Block From the Windows Firewall with Advanced Security properties you can also configure additional rules for incoming as well as outbound connections. This is very old "news." For instance, from a post of my own, back in June of 2007: Vista's built-in Windows Firewall is adequate for most users, but not particularly easy to configure. Vista's built-in firewall, although superior to that of WinXP, is of a rudimentary nature, intended to meet the simpler needs of most home consumers (or business/enterprise clients already ensconced behind more advanced perimeter defenses). One 3rd-party add-on (Sphinx's Vista Firewall Control http://sphinx-soft.com/Vista/) might make the Vista Firewall a bit more useful to you, but nothing but a completely independent product will be able to provide the detailed control you want. There are two interfaces for Vistas built-in firewall: 1) A simplified one accessed through the Control Panel that is the only one most people see. 2) And the more advanced "Windows Firewall with Advanced Security (WF.msc)," accessed via the Start Menu's Administrative Tools folder, for the experienced user who wants better control. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers. ~ Denis Diderot |
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Microsoft Windows Vista includes a two-way firewall. TO THE TOP
On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 09:55:40 -0600, "Richard Mueller [MVP]"
wrote: "FromTheRafters" wrote in message ... "I.C. Greenfields" wrote in message ... Some of us want to choose what "gets out" and what doesn't. And this info doesn't work since there is nowhere to make such a change in the Windows Firewall window that comes up. Configure it - HOW? Can someone explain how it's configured to actually work without being a programmer writing strange unknown confusing rules for everything that wants to connect to the net? If not, can someone recommend a good free easy to use two-way FireWall like ZoneAlarm that's compatible with Vista? Thanks. http://www.vistastic.com/2007/03/09/...und-filtering/ I bet you didn't know that Microsoft Windows Vista includes a two-way firewall. Windows Firewall with Advanced Security includes an API that allows services, applications, and installers to write their own ticket through the firewall. In other words, they can add themselves to the exclusions list. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr...53(VS.85).aspx So, it doesn't really do what most people think it does. The key to not having programs make outbound connections, or opening up ports for receiving unsolicited inbound traffic, is to not run those programs on the machine. Third party firewalls don't make it *that* easy - but they don't make it much harder either. They provide the illusion that they can stop outbound traffic. Which is why I never use the Windows firewall. Every app thinks they are special and should be able to contact big brother with news about me and retrieve info on things they feel I need. Some companies are especially bad. I know because I don't use Windows firewall so I see the requests and deny them. Over the years it seems to have gotten much worse. -- Richard Mueller MVP Directory Services Hilltop Lab - http://www.rlmueller.net Have you had to update your tinfoil beanie or is the original one working OK? |
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Microsoft Windows Vista includes a two-way firewall. TO THETOP
Jim Moriarty wrote:
On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 09:55:40 -0600, "Richard Mueller [MVP]" wrote: "FromTheRafters" wrote in message ... "I.C. Greenfields" wrote in message ... Some of us want to choose what "gets out" and what doesn't. And this info doesn't work since there is nowhere to make such a change in the Windows Firewall window that comes up. Configure it - HOW? Can someone explain how it's configured to actually work without being a programmer writing strange unknown confusing rules for everything that wants to connect to the net? If not, can someone recommend a good free easy to use two-way FireWall like ZoneAlarm that's compatible with Vista? Thanks. http://www.vistastic.com/2007/03/09/...und-filtering/ I bet you didn't know that Microsoft Windows Vista includes a two-way firewall. Windows Firewall with Advanced Security includes an API that allows services, applications, and installers to write their own ticket through the firewall. In other words, they can add themselves to the exclusions list. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr...53(VS.85).aspx So, it doesn't really do what most people think it does. The key to not having programs make outbound connections, or opening up ports for receiving unsolicited inbound traffic, is to not run those programs on the machine. Third party firewalls don't make it *that* easy - but they don't make it much harder either. They provide the illusion that they can stop outbound traffic. Which is why I never use the Windows firewall. Every app thinks they are special and should be able to contact big brother with news about me and retrieve info on things they feel I need. Some companies are especially bad. I know because I don't use Windows firewall so I see the requests and deny them. Over the years it seems to have gotten much worse. -- Richard Mueller MVP Directory Services Hilltop Lab - http://www.rlmueller.net Have you had to update your tinfoil beanie or is the original one working OK? And this person is an MVP? He should not speak of FW technology that's for sure. He must have been on Gibson's site all of this time and became paranoid. |
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