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Overwriting Vista Home Premium with XP Pro
Hi, I have just purchased a brand new laptop that came with Vista Home
Premium pre-installed (but has recovery disk) - I want to install XP Pro instead as Vista is not compatable with the programs I wish to run. I have booted from my XP install disk and it goes through set-up quite happily until it gets to starting Windows..... I gives me the normal options i.e. return to format current drive, D to delete etc.. but in the box it displays There is no disk in this drive if I return or select D I get the following error: "A problem has been detected & windows has been shut down to prevent damage. PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA" I am presuming that the Vista is protected in some way, can anyone help me please? |
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Overwriting Vista Home Premium with XP Pro
Wendy wrote:
Hi, I have just purchased a brand new laptop that came with Vista Home Premium pre-installed (but has recovery disk) - I want to install XP Pro instead as Vista is not compatable with the programs I wish to run. I have booted from my XP install disk and it goes through set-up quite happily until it gets to starting Windows..... I gives me the normal options i.e. return to format current drive, D to delete etc.. but in the box it displays There is no disk in this drive if I return or select D I get the following error: "A problem has been detected & windows has been shut down to prevent damage. PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA" I am presuming that the Vista is protected in some way, can anyone help me please? Vista isn't "protected in some way". The hardware in your computer isn't compatible with XP and something is failing. Here is general information about replacing Vista with XP. Frankly, since this is a brand-new computer I sugget you do Item #6. On an OEM (HP, Sony, etc.) computer: 1. Go to the OEM's website and look for XP drivers for your specific model computer. If there are no XP drivers, then you can't install XP. End of story. If there are drivers, download them and store on a CD-R or USB thumbdrive; you'll need them after you install XP. 2. Check with the OEM - either from their tech support website or by calling them - to see if you will void your warranty if you do this. If you will void the warranty, you make the decision. 3. If the OEM does support XP on the machine, call them and see if you can have downgrade rights and have them send you an XP restore disk. This will be far the easiest and best way of getting XP on the machine. 4. If XP is supported on the machine but the OEM doesn't have an XP restore disk for you, understand that you'll need to purchase a retail copy of XP from your favorite online or brick/mortar store. 5. Also understand that you will need to do a clean install of XP so if you have any data you want, back it up first. 6. If none of the above is applicable to you because you can't run XP on that machine (see Item #1 above), return the computer and purchase one running XP instead. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ |
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Overwriting Vista Home Premium with XP Pro
Hi Malke, thank you for your speedy response, I appreciate it. I have
nothing to back up as it is brand new. But I have sent an email to "Medion" (the manufacturer) to enquire about installing XP, if this is NOT possible, then I will take your advice and return the laptop. Unfortunately, it is almost impossible to purchase a computer here with XP installed without paying through the nose for it. I will just make sure that the hardware will run XP. Thank you again for your advice. Wendy "Malke" wrote: Wendy wrote: Hi, I have just purchased a brand new laptop that came with Vista Home Premium pre-installed (but has recovery disk) - I want to install XP Pro instead as Vista is not compatable with the programs I wish to run. I have booted from my XP install disk and it goes through set-up quite happily until it gets to starting Windows..... I gives me the normal options i.e. return to format current drive, D to delete etc.. but in the box it displays There is no disk in this drive if I return or select D I get the following error: "A problem has been detected & windows has been shut down to prevent damage. PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA" I am presuming that the Vista is protected in some way, can anyone help me please? Vista isn't "protected in some way". The hardware in your computer isn't compatible with XP and something is failing. Here is general information about replacing Vista with XP. Frankly, since this is a brand-new computer I sugget you do Item #6. On an OEM (HP, Sony, etc.) computer: 1. Go to the OEM's website and look for XP drivers for your specific model computer. If there are no XP drivers, then you can't install XP. End of story. If there are drivers, download them and store on a CD-R or USB thumbdrive; you'll need them after you install XP. 2. Check with the OEM - either from their tech support website or by calling them - to see if you will void your warranty if you do this. If you will void the warranty, you make the decision. 3. If the OEM does support XP on the machine, call them and see if you can have downgrade rights and have them send you an XP restore disk. This will be far the easiest and best way of getting XP on the machine. 4. If XP is supported on the machine but the OEM doesn't have an XP restore disk for you, understand that you'll need to purchase a retail copy of XP from your favorite online or brick/mortar store. 5. Also understand that you will need to do a clean install of XP so if you have any data you want, back it up first. 6. If none of the above is applicable to you because you can't run XP on that machine (see Item #1 above), return the computer and purchase one running XP instead. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ |
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Overwriting Vista Home Premium with XP Pro
"Wendy" wrote in message ... Hi Malke, thank you for your speedy response, I appreciate it. I have nothing to back up as it is brand new. But I have sent an email to "Medion" (the manufacturer) to enquire about installing XP, if this is NOT possible, then I will take your advice and return the laptop. Unfortunately, it is almost impossible to purchase a computer here with XP installed without paying through the nose for it. I will just make sure that the hardware will run XP. Thank you again for your advice. Wendy "Malke" wrote: Wendy wrote: Hi, I have just purchased a brand new laptop that came with Vista Home Premium pre-installed (but has recovery disk) - I want to install XP Pro instead as Vista is not compatable with the programs I wish to run. I have booted from my XP install disk and it goes through set-up quite happily until it gets to starting Windows..... I gives me the normal options i.e. return to format current drive, D to delete etc.. but in the box it displays There is no disk in this drive if I return or select D I get the following error: "A problem has been detected & windows has been shut down to prevent damage. PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA" I am presuming that the Vista is protected in some way, can anyone help me please? Vista isn't "protected in some way". The hardware in your computer isn't compatible with XP and something is failing. Here is general information about replacing Vista with XP. Frankly, since this is a brand-new computer I sugget you do Item #6. On an OEM (HP, Sony, etc.) computer: 1. Go to the OEM's website and look for XP drivers for your specific model computer. If there are no XP drivers, then you can't install XP. End of story. If there are drivers, download them and store on a CD-R or USB thumbdrive; you'll need them after you install XP. 2. Check with the OEM - either from their tech support website or by calling them - to see if you will void your warranty if you do this. If you will void the warranty, you make the decision. 3. If the OEM does support XP on the machine, call them and see if you can have downgrade rights and have them send you an XP restore disk. This will be far the easiest and best way of getting XP on the machine. 4. If XP is supported on the machine but the OEM doesn't have an XP restore disk for you, understand that you'll need to purchase a retail copy of XP from your favorite online or brick/mortar store. 5. Also understand that you will need to do a clean install of XP so if you have any data you want, back it up first. 6. If none of the above is applicable to you because you can't run XP on that machine (see Item #1 above), return the computer and purchase one running XP instead. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ One alternative that might or might not work for you is to install XP under Vista using Virtual PC or similar software that creates a virtual computer environment. MS offers Virtual PC as a freeware download. Start Virtual PC as you would any normal app within Vista and it creates a virtual computer running whatever OS you've installed on it. Depending on what kind of software you need to run this can work very well but there are situations where it might not work out at all. I've used Virtual PC to be able to use older graphics software and some games running under Windows 98, with VPC running in either Vista or XP. |
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Overwriting Vista Home Premium with XP Pro
Wendy wrote:
Hi, I have just purchased a brand new laptop that came with Vista Home Premium pre-installed (but has recovery disk) - I want to install XP Pro instead as Vista is not compatable with the programs I wish to run. I have booted from my XP install disk and it goes through set-up quite happily until it gets to starting Windows..... I gives me the normal options i.e. return to format current drive, D to delete etc.. but in the box it displays There is no disk in this drive if I return or select D I get the following error: "A problem has been detected & windows has been shut down to prevent damage. PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA" I am presuming that the Vista is protected in some way, can anyone help me please? There could be a couple possible adverse repercussions of which you should be aware. First and foremost, if the specific computer model in question was designed specifically for Vista, there may well be no WinXP-specific device drivers available to make the computer's diverse components work properly. Consult the computer's manufacturer about the availability of device drivers. Secondly, removing an OEM-installed operating system and replacing it with another will almost invariably void any and all support agreements and, in rare cases, possibly even the warranty. You would, at the very least, have to re-install Vista before getting any support from the manufacturer. Again, consult the computer's manufacturer for specifics. Thirdly, there will be the additional cost involved in purchasing a WinXP license for this new computer. After backing up any data you wish to transfer to the new OS installation, simply boot from the WinXP installation CD. You'll be offered the opportunity to delete, create, and format partitions as part of the installation process. (You may need to re-arrange the order of boot devices in the PC's BIOS to boot from the CD.) HOW TO Install Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/default...B;en-us;316941 http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/clean_install.htm Then, assuming you were successful in obtaining WinXP-specific device drivers so that the computer can be made to work with WinXP, the backed up data can be restored and applications (those that are WinXP-compatible, that is) re-installed. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers. ~ Denis Diderot |
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Overwriting Vista Home Premium with XP Pro
"Bruce Chambers" wrote: Wendy wrote: Hi, I have just purchased a brand new laptop that came with Vista Home Premium pre-installed (but has recovery disk) - I want to install XP Pro instead as Vista is not compatable with the programs I wish to run. I have booted from my XP install disk and it goes through set-up quite happily until it gets to starting Windows..... I gives me the normal options i.e. return to format current drive, D to delete etc.. but in the box it displays There is no disk in this drive if I return or select D I get the following error: "A problem has been detected & windows has been shut down to prevent damage. PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA" I am presuming that the Vista is protected in some way, can anyone help me please? There could be a couple possible adverse repercussions of which you should be aware. First and foremost, if the specific computer model in question was designed specifically for Vista, there may well be no WinXP-specific device drivers available to make the computer's diverse components work properly. Consult the computer's manufacturer about the availability of device drivers. Secondly, removing an OEM-installed operating system and replacing it with another will almost invariably void any and all support agreements and, in rare cases, possibly even the warranty. You would, at the very least, have to re-install Vista before getting any support from the manufacturer. Again, consult the computer's manufacturer for specifics. Thirdly, there will be the additional cost involved in purchasing a WinXP license for this new computer. After backing up any data you wish to transfer to the new OS installation, simply boot from the WinXP installation CD. You'll be offered the opportunity to delete, create, and format partitions as part of the installation process. (You may need to re-arrange the order of boot devices in the PC's BIOS to boot from the CD.) HOW TO Install Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/default...B;en-us;316941 http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/clean_install.htm Then, assuming you were successful in obtaining WinXP-specific device drivers so that the computer can be made to work with WinXP, the backed up data can be restored and applications (those that are WinXP-compatible, that is) re-installed. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers. ~ Denis Diderot Thank you Bruce, do you know where I can download the required drivers or what they are called? Regards, Wendy |
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Overwriting Vista Home Premium with XP Pro
Wendy wrote:
Thank you Bruce, do you know where I can download the required drivers or what they are called? As I already told you: "Go to the OEM's website (your laptop mftr.) and look for XP drivers for your specific model computer. If there are no XP drivers, then you can't install XP. End of story. If there are drivers, download them and store on a CD-R or USB thumbdrive; you'll need them after you install XP." If you still don't understand what I and Bruce have tried to explain, then make this very simple: 1. Call the laptop mftr.'s tech support and ask them if you can run XP on this laptop. If they say no, return it or see #4 below. 2. If they say yes, then have them send you a recovery disk set for XP. Use it and install XP. 3. If they don't have a recovery disk set but XP is supported, ask them to direct you to the webpage where you can download XP drivers if you can't find it yourself. 4. If you can't run XP directly on the laptop because there are no drivers, then make a choice: a. Either return the laptop and purchase one running XP (Dell business machines are available running XP). b. Or purchase a retail copy of XP (still available from good online stores) and use virtual computing software (MS Virtual PC, VMware Workstation, VirtualBox) to create a virtual machine running XP on the host operating system (Vista). If 4b. sounds like the way you want to go but too confusing to do (and that's OK, we all have our areas of expertise), take the laptop to a local computer tech and have them do it for you. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ |
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Overwriting Vista Home Premium with XP Pro
On Tue, 12 May 2009 02:04:01 -0700, Wendy
wrote: Thank you Bruce, do you know where I can download the required drivers or what they are called? First you have to determine what devices are in the laptop. Download Everest from http://www.lavalys.com/products.php?ps=&page=11&dlid=3&lang=en, install, and run. Click on Report, Next , Custom Selection, Next . Deselect all pages, expand Devices, select Physical Devices, Next , Plain Text, Finish. Highlight PCI Devices, copy to clipboard (ctrl-C), and paste into your reply to this message: PCI Devices: Bus 6, Device 1, Function 0 BrookTree WinTV PAL B-G Bus 6, Device 1, Function 1 BrookTree WinTV PAL B-G Bus 4, Device 0, Function 0 Gigabyte GBB363 SATA-II RAID Controller Bus 4, Device 0, Function 1 Gigabyte GBB363 SATA-II RAID Controller Bus 1, Device 0, Function 0 Gigabyte GeForce 8600 GT Video Adapter Bus 3, Device 0, Function 0 Harmonics (Conexant) CX23885 Video Capture Bus 0, Device 30, Function 0 Intel 82801JB I/O Controller Hub 10 (ICH10) [A-0] Bus 0, Device 31, Function 5 Intel 82801JB ICH10 - 2-port SATA Controller Bus 0, Device 31, Function 2 Intel 82801JB ICH10 - 4-port SATA Controller Bus 0, Device 27, Function 0 Intel 82801JB ICH10 - High Definition Audio Controller Bus 0, Device 28, Function 0 Intel 82801JB ICH10 - PCI Express Root Port 1 Bus 0, Device 28, Function 1 Intel 82801JB ICH10 - PCI Express Root Port 2 Bus 0, Device 28, Function 3 Intel 82801JB ICH10 - PCI Express Root Port 4 Bus 0, Device 28, Function 4 Intel 82801JB ICH10 - PCI Express Root Port 5 Bus 0, Device 31, Function 3 Intel 82801JB ICH10 - SMBus Controller Bus 0, Device 26, Function 0 Intel 82801JB ICH10 - USB Universal Host Controller Bus 0, Device 26, Function 1 Intel 82801JB ICH10 - USB Universal Host Controller Bus 0, Device 26, Function 2 Intel 82801JB ICH10 - USB Universal Host Controller Bus 0, Device 29, Function 0 Intel 82801JB ICH10 - USB Universal Host Controller Bus 0, Device 29, Function 1 Intel 82801JB ICH10 - USB Universal Host Controller Bus 0, Device 29, Function 2 Intel 82801JB ICH10 - USB Universal Host Controller Bus 0, Device 26, Function 7 Intel 82801JB ICH10 - USB2 Enhanced Host Controller Bus 0, Device 29, Function 7 Intel 82801JB ICH10 - USB2 Enhanced Host Controller Bus 0, Device 31, Function 0 Intel 82801JB ICH10R - LPC Bridge Bus 0, Device 0, Function 0 Intel G43/G45/P43/P45 Chipset - Memory Controller Hub [A-3] Bus 0, Device 1, Function 0 Intel G43/G45/P43/P45 Chipset - Primary PCI Express x16 Root [A-3] Bus 5, Device 0, Function 0 Realtek RTL8168C/8111C PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Adapter Bus 6, Device 0, Function 0 Teralogic TL880-based HDTV/ATSC Tuner Bus 6, Device 7, Function 0 Texas Instruments TSB43AB23 1394A-2000 OHCI PHY/Link-Layer Controller Regards, Wendy |
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