Perhaps give me the exact path to this information. There was no "Web Help"
in the content and no "Error Details" either so I must not be under the right
tab, although it does say "Contect" clearly on top.

Bart

"zachd [MSFT]" wrote:


What happens if you click Web Help on the Error Details in WMP11 when you're
missing a codec? I think that does exactly what you're speaking of...

--
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"DevilsPGD" wrote in message
...
In message "zachd [MSFT]"
wrote:

This area of problem (I shall supply you a clip without indicating what
codec or tool you need to decode it) has been known for the past 13+ years
people have been using Win32. In the past content vendors would advise
you
as to what codec was needed.

Higher quality media players will tell you exactly what codec you need
too, so it's just a simple Google search away.

Windows Media Player, unfortunately, doesn't appear to give specific
details.

"DevilsPGD" wrote:

In message "zachd [MSFT]"
wrote:

This area of problem (I shall supply you a clip without indicating what
codec or tool you need to decode it) has been known for the past 13+ years
people have been using Win32. In the past content vendors would advise you
as to what codec was needed.

Higher quality media players will tell you exactly what codec you need
too, so it's just a simple Google search away.

Windows Media Player, unfortunately, doesn't appear to give specific
details.


I'm sure I know the codec already. It's probably just a waste of time
either way. If it is an ATI one then they do not have one for Vista unless
you, I assume, are still using one of their capture cards.

Bart

I'll search out that one just to see if there is a Vista version of that
codec. Perhaps better luck than the ATI solution which only applies to their
hardware it seems.

Bart

"zachd [MSFT]" wrote:


On my *XP* system that's decoded by the Toshiba Video Codec binary -
vidc.yvu9 .
Not sure where the "no codec required" note comes from on their part. Since
it's not working for you, I wouldn't consider that comment reliable.

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"bartman" wrote in message
news
It might not be magic, but it is still puzzling. Perhaps not to you, but
since this is the data on the file that I have already repeated, it is to
me.

There is no error details under the content in the wmplayer.

Gspot says:

Codec is YVU9 and NO CODEC REQUIRED

That codec is some kind of raw format from ATI from what I have gathered.
I
do not know where the "no codec required" is coming from since ATI clearly
requires something, but why it is strange is that the XP machine that this
file runs on perfectly has no ATI video capture card at all AND this codec
is
not listed as being installed under XP so for whatever reason XP can play
it
(which it shouldn't be able to do according to ATI since that machine
doesn't
have their capture card) but Vista doesn't play it. Seems to me that XP
has
a codec that is called something else, but it works with this file and
Vista
does not.

Since I do not have time to figure out how a XP machine can play it when
it
isn't supposed to and Vista cannot (yeah, I know, Vista doesn't have the
codec which gspot says isn't required anyway) I just took them to an old
ATI
machine and converted them into another uncompressed format called DIB
(RGB)
which is who knows what, but Vista seems to understand it and I can edit
it.
I will have lost something in the conversion since it had to change
formats,
but the results seem to be just about the same quality as the originals so
probably no harm done.

Bart



"zachd [MSFT]" wrote:


This isn't magic:
Your AVI file uses one video codec, and one audio codec.

What codecs does it use?

Those are broken or not present on your system.

This area of problem (I shall supply you a clip without indicating what
codec or tool you need to decode it) has been known for the past 13+
years
people have been using Win32. In the past content vendors would advise
you
as to what codec was needed. I'm sorry that yours was not helpful in
that
fashion. If you right-click on the content and select Error Details, Web
Help should likely indicate the codec that is missing. If not, GSpot
Codec
tool should.

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"Barry C J" wrote in message
...
I have similar problem - I just installed Gom Player on Vista Machine
and
.avi files I have that won't work in WMP (just sound and black screen
or
horrid visualizations) play perfectly.
Gom interface is better too!

Cheers
Barry


"bartman" wrote:

I could accept that if it weren't for the fact that it worked in both
W95
media player and XP media player, but stopped working in Vista.
Really,
there are probably thousands of people who will ultimately lose video
memories they have made that they used to be able to play just fine.

Bart



"zachd [MSFT]" wrote:


There were a number of third party codecs involved in the main
Windows
mix
over the years. It may or may not be possible to provide support
for
third
party codecs over the years.

This is a painful truth, sorry. The Lernout and Hauspie codec is
probably
the worst case scenario. =\

--
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This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
--

"bartman" wrote in message
...
I think I was able to use my old Windows 95 machine to make the
file
into
something that Vista understands. It might have been possible in
XP
as
well,
but I didn't want to purchase software with it when W95 was able
to
see
the
file just fine.

Did no one at MS think that people may want to still use video
clips
that
were created in older versions of Windows? I doubt the majority
of
users
made them so they could scrap them all when they upgrade their OS.
It's
about as logical as taking photos and burning the prints when you
buy
a
new
camera. 99.9999999% of videos people make of family and friends
only
happens
once and can't be recreated each time there is a new OS.

Bart

"Kerry Brown" wrote:

It sounds like you are not running the command from from an
elevated
command
prompt.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


"bartman" wrote in message
...
Worth a try, but it makes no difference. File still doesn't
play
the
video.

When I try the unistall I get an error that says, "The module
"ir50_32.dll"
was loaded but the call to dllunregisterserver failed with
error
code
0x8000ffff". Doesn't sound good. I have a restore point just
before I
tried
this so hopefully that undoes my fix attempt properly.

I ran across this link that I tried to get information from,
but
got
nothing
from the company.

http://www.ligos.com/index.php/home/products/indeo/

Know anything about this?

Bart

"Kerry Brown" wrote:

I have no idea what problems it could cause. I'm always
suspicious
when
something is not enabled by default. It may be a performance,
security,
or
who knows what issue. It may simply be someone forgot to write
the
code
register the file. If it does cause a problem you could easily
unregister
the file with the command

regsvr32 /u ir50_32.dll

If you register the file and it doesn't work or causes a
problem
just
run
the above command in an elevated command prompt. You may have
to
reboot
after registering and unregistering for it to take effect.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/



"bartman" wrote in message
...
"May cause other problems"

What might I expect and is there a way to undo it if
problems
arise?
I
don't want to blindly jump into something.

Thanks.

Bart


"Kerry Brown" wrote:

At an elevated command prompt type the following

regsvr32 ir50_32.dll

I think this is the codec you need. This should register
the
codec
but
it
may cause other problems. There's probably a reason why
it's
not
enabled
by
default. To get an elevated command prompt locate Command
Prompt in
All
Programs = Accessories. Right click on it and pick Run as
administrator.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/


"bartman" wrote in
message
...
Vista Home Premium and XP Professional.

Your links refer to either MPEG or Divx and my file is
neither.
It
is
an
uncompressed AVI file. It was not done with Divx. More
Information
I
have
found says "Planar ATI YUV9 Indeo". Gspot says that a

During playback of a clip with a missing element, it will either pop that
error dialog to you or you can right click on the file being played back in
the playlist and select error details.

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--

"bartman" wrote in message
...
Perhaps give me the exact path to this information. There was no "Web
Help"
in the content and no "Error Details" either so I must not be under the
right
tab, although it does say "Contect" clearly on top.

Bart

"zachd [MSFT]" wrote:


What happens if you click Web Help on the Error Details in WMP11 when
you're
missing a codec? I think that does exactly what you're speaking of...

--
Speaking for myself only.
See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
--

"DevilsPGD" wrote in message
...
In message "zachd [MSFT]"
wrote:

This area of problem (I shall supply you a clip without indicating what
codec or tool you need to decode it) has been known for the past 13+
years
people have been using Win32. In the past content vendors would advise
you
as to what codec was needed.

Higher quality media players will tell you exactly what codec you need
too, so it's just a simple Google search away.

Windows Media Player, unfortunately, doesn't appear to give specific
details.

Okay, there are no errors listed either way.

I get a black screen. The progress bar moves from left to right as if it is
playing something, but nothing is there. There is no audio on these clips so
I don't know if it would be playing while the video is not, but there is no
pop up error, no error when I right click the file that is playing or any
other errors appearing.

Bart

"zachd [MSFT]" wrote:


During playback of a clip with a missing element, it will either pop that
error dialog to you or you can right click on the file being played back in
the playlist and select error details.

--
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See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
--

"bartman" wrote in message
...
Perhaps give me the exact path to this information. There was no "Web
Help"
in the content and no "Error Details" either so I must not be under the
right
tab, although it does say "Contect" clearly on top.

Bart

"zachd [MSFT]" wrote:


What happens if you click Web Help on the Error Details in WMP11 when
you're
missing a codec? I think that does exactly what you're speaking of...

--
Speaking for myself only.
See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
--

"DevilsPGD" wrote in message
...
In message "zachd [MSFT]"
wrote:

This area of problem (I shall supply you a clip without indicating what
codec or tool you need to decode it) has been known for the past 13+
years
people have been using Win32. In the past content vendors would advise
you
as to what codec was needed.

Higher quality media players will tell you exactly what codec you need
too, so it's just a simple Google search away.

Windows Media Player, unfortunately, doesn't appear to give specific
details.

That indicates that there's a codec/dll on the system that thinks it can
play it back, but cannot. Since it's not explicitly failing (just rendering
oh-so-helpful black), WMP's codec failover schemes aren't invoked.

Do you have a sample clip I can look at?

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"bartman" wrote in message
...
Okay, there are no errors listed either way.

I get a black screen. The progress bar moves from left to right as if it
is
playing something, but nothing is there. There is no audio on these clips
so
I don't know if it would be playing while the video is not, but there is
no
pop up error, no error when I right click the file that is playing or any
other errors appearing.

Bart

"zachd [MSFT]" wrote:


During playback of a clip with a missing element, it will either pop that
error dialog to you or you can right click on the file being played back
in
the playlist and select error details.

--
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See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
--

"bartman" wrote in message
...
Perhaps give me the exact path to this information. There was no "Web
Help"
in the content and no "Error Details" either so I must not be under the
right
tab, although it does say "Contect" clearly on top.

Bart

"zachd [MSFT]" wrote:


What happens if you click Web Help on the Error Details in WMP11 when
you're
missing a codec? I think that does exactly what you're speaking of...

--
Speaking for myself only.
See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
--

"DevilsPGD" wrote in message
...
In message "zachd [MSFT]"
wrote:

This area of problem (I shall supply you a clip without indicating
what
codec or tool you need to decode it) has been known for the past 13+
years
people have been using Win32. In the past content vendors would
advise
you
as to what codec was needed.

Higher quality media players will tell you exactly what codec you
need
too, so it's just a simple Google search away.

Windows Media Player, unfortunately, doesn't appear to give specific
details.

Makes sense.

These are large clips. You'd have to have a way of receiving at least 14 MB
if Yahoo will send that large a file. Or a place to upload it.

What do you think you will see? I just think it all boils down to the ATI
issue and there won't be a solution.

Bart

"zachd [MSFT]" wrote:


That indicates that there's a codec/dll on the system that thinks it can
play it back, but cannot. Since it's not explicitly failing (just rendering
oh-so-helpful black), WMP's codec failover schemes aren't invoked.

Do you have a sample clip I can look at?

--
Speaking for myself only.
See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
--
"bartman" wrote in message
...
Okay, there are no errors listed either way.

I get a black screen. The progress bar moves from left to right as if it
is
playing something, but nothing is there. There is no audio on these clips
so
I don't know if it would be playing while the video is not, but there is
no
pop up error, no error when I right click the file that is playing or any
other errors appearing.

Bart

"zachd [MSFT]" wrote:


During playback of a clip with a missing element, it will either pop that
error dialog to you or you can right click on the file being played back
in
the playlist and select error details.

--
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See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
--

"bartman" wrote in message
...
Perhaps give me the exact path to this information. There was no "Web
Help"
in the content and no "Error Details" either so I must not be under the
right
tab, although it does say "Contect" clearly on top.

Bart

"zachd [MSFT]" wrote:


What happens if you click Web Help on the Error Details in WMP11 when
you're
missing a codec? I think that does exactly what you're speaking of...

--
Speaking for myself only.
See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
--

"DevilsPGD" wrote in message
...
In message "zachd [MSFT]"
wrote:

This area of problem (I shall supply you a clip without indicating
what
codec or tool you need to decode it) has been known for the past 13+
years
people have been using Win32. In the past content vendors would
advise
you
as to what codec was needed.

Higher quality media players will tell you exactly what codec you
need
too, so it's just a simple Google search away.

Windows Media Player, unfortunately, doesn't appear to give specific
details.

Ne'ermind, then. I'm busy of course, but don't want anyone to think I'm
giving them short shrift. Cheers. =)

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"bartman" wrote in message
...
Makes sense.

These are large clips. You'd have to have a way of receiving at least 14
MB
if Yahoo will send that large a file. Or a place to upload it.

What do you think you will see? I just think it all boils down to the ATI
issue and there won't be a solution.

Bart

"zachd [MSFT]" wrote:


That indicates that there's a codec/dll on the system that thinks it can
play it back, but cannot. Since it's not explicitly failing (just
rendering
oh-so-helpful black), WMP's codec failover schemes aren't invoked.

Do you have a sample clip I can look at?

--
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rights.
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"bartman" wrote in message
...
Okay, there are no errors listed either way.

I get a black screen. The progress bar moves from left to right as if
it
is
playing something, but nothing is there. There is no audio on these
clips
so
I don't know if it would be playing while the video is not, but there
is
no
pop up error, no error when I right click the file that is playing or
any
other errors appearing.

Bart

"zachd [MSFT]" wrote:


During playback of a clip with a missing element, it will either pop
that
error dialog to you or you can right click on the file being played
back
in
the playlist and select error details.

--
Speaking for myself only.
See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
--

"bartman" wrote in message
...
Perhaps give me the exact path to this information. There was no
"Web
Help"
in the content and no "Error Details" either so I must not be under
the
right
tab, although it does say "Contect" clearly on top.

Bart

"zachd [MSFT]" wrote:


What happens if you click Web Help on the Error Details in WMP11
when
you're
missing a codec? I think that does exactly what you're speaking
of...

--
Speaking for myself only.
See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
--

"DevilsPGD" wrote in message
...
In message "zachd [MSFT]"
wrote:

This area of problem (I shall supply you a clip without
indicating
what
codec or tool you need to decode it) has been known for the past
13+
years
people have been using Win32. In the past content vendors would
advise
you
as to what codec was needed.

Higher quality media players will tell you exactly what codec you
need
too, so it's just a simple Google search away.

Windows Media Player, unfortunately, doesn't appear to give
specific
details.

don't any of you know how to recode your video files? this would seem a lot
easyer? can't you load it in the XP movie maker and save it as a .WMA? there
is other software out there, but this would keep you in the safe world of
MS.. LOL.. as for Codec's download on of the big packs from

http://www.majorgeeks.com/Vista_Code...age_d5326.html or
http://www.free-codecs.com/download/...ec_Package.htm

I watch all types of video! I haven't had any problems... But I still wish i
would have passed on the
Vista Ultimate ..

"bartman" wrote:

I could accept that if it weren't for the fact that it worked in both W95
media player and XP media player, but stopped working in Vista. Really,
there are probably thousands of people who will ultimately lose video
memories they have made that they used to be able to play just fine.

Bart



"zachd [MSFT]" wrote:


There were a number of third party codecs involved in the main Windows mix
over the years. It may or may not be possible to provide support for third
party codecs over the years.

This is a painful truth, sorry. The Lernout and Hauspie codec is probably
the worst case scenario. =\

--
Speaking for myself only.
See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
--

"bartman" wrote in message
...
I think I was able to use my old Windows 95 machine to make the file into
something that Vista understands. It might have been possible in XP as
well,
but I didn't want to purchase software with it when W95 was able to see
the
file just fine.

Did no one at MS think that people may want to still use video clips that
were created in older versions of Windows? I doubt the majority of users
made them so they could scrap them all when they upgrade their OS. It's
about as logical as taking photos and burning the prints when you buy a
new
camera. 99.9999999% of videos people make of family and friends only
happens
once and can't be recreated each time there is a new OS.

Bart

"Kerry Brown" wrote:

It sounds like you are not running the command from from an elevated
command
prompt.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


"bartman" wrote in message
...
Worth a try, but it makes no difference. File still doesn't play the
video.

When I try the unistall I get an error that says, "The module
"ir50_32.dll"
was loaded but the call to dllunregisterserver failed with error code
0x8000ffff". Doesn't sound good. I have a restore point just before I
tried
this so hopefully that undoes my fix attempt properly.

I ran across this link that I tried to get information from, but got
nothing
from the company.

http://www.ligos.com/index.php/home/products/indeo/

Know anything about this?

Bart

"Kerry Brown" wrote:

I have no idea what problems it could cause. I'm always suspicious
when
something is not enabled by default. It may be a performance,
security,
or
who knows what issue. It may simply be someone forgot to write the
code
register the file. If it does cause a problem you could easily
unregister
the file with the command

regsvr32 /u ir50_32.dll

If you register the file and it doesn't work or causes a problem just
run
the above command in an elevated command prompt. You may have to
reboot
after registering and unregistering for it to take effect.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/



"bartman" wrote in message
...
"May cause other problems"

What might I expect and is there a way to undo it if problems arise?
I
don't want to blindly jump into something.

Thanks.

Bart


"Kerry Brown" wrote:

At an elevated command prompt type the following

regsvr32 ir50_32.dll

I think this is the codec you need. This should register the codec
but
it
may cause other problems. There's probably a reason why it's not
enabled
by
default. To get an elevated command prompt locate Command Prompt in
All
Programs = Accessories. Right click on it and pick Run as
administrator.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/


"bartman" wrote in message
...
Vista Home Premium and XP Professional.

Your links refer to either MPEG or Divx and my file is neither.
It
is
an
uncompressed AVI file. It was not done with Divx. More
Information
I
have
found says "Planar ATI YUV9 Indeo". Gspot says that a codec is
not
required
which is obviously false since it doesn't display video in Vista.

If the proper codec is not supported in Vista is there anyway in
the
existing XP system, without adding any new software, to convert
it
to
something Vista understands and still keep it uncompressed?

Thanks.

Bart


"Kerry Brown" wrote:

You don't mention which version of Vista you have nor which
version
of
XP.
Some codec's require licensing and are not included in some
versions
of
Vista or XP. One of these codec's will most likely solve your
problem.

http://www.xvid.org/

http://www.divx.com/

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...dvdcodecs.aspx

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/



"John Inzer" wrote in message
...
bartman wrote:
This file will open and play in MS Player 10 with XP, but not
in
version 11 with Vista. Gspot told me no codec was required,
but
this
can't be the case. I get a black screen. I assume the audio
works,
but since these are silent files I only speculate on this
since
the
time bar moves.

Vista seems to be missing the ATI YUV9 codecs, but why are
they
there
in version 10 and not 11? If this is indeed the problem
where
do I
get the proper codec for Vista to handle this code as
reported
by
Gspot?

Any ideas would be appreciated. I need these files.

Thanks.

Bart
===========================
Maybe the following codec package
would be worth a try.

Proceed at your own risk.....

Vista Codec Package
http://www.majorgeeks.com/Vista_Code...age_d5326.html

--

John Inzer
MS Picture It! -
Digital Image MVP

Digital Image
Highlights and FAQs
http://support.microsoft.com/ph/695

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk

In message
iamnotsunshine wrote:

don't any of you know how to recode your video files? this would seem a lot
easyer? can't you load it in the XP movie maker and save it as a .WMA?

Reencode everything in WMA? That's a bad joke, no?